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[Trillz]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRizzzle

Here's an issue I have with the move set debate and online players complaining about the move sets. I feel like online players make this complaint a lot, but then they also don't want the attributes and ratings to be 100 percent correct either, for balancing purposes. In reality, Jon Jones is going to beat 99 percent of every opponent he ever faces, because he's that good. It wouldn't matter how good you are playing as Ryan Bader, Jones is so good he's going to beat Bader every time. His chin is that good, his offensive and defensive grappling is that good. So if you have two even players, whoever plays as Jones SHOULD win. They just should. But there are measures in place to make sure that Jones isn't too OP in the game, when IRL, he is an OP mutant. So when people get all up in arms about the fighters not having proper move sets, I'm like, OK but the balancing was going to dilute them back to being a skin of themselves in another way, so... Again, I'm an offline player, but I feel like online players want concessions made to the game play that affects my offline gaming, so when I see complaints about move sets I get it, but I don't get it at the same time. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

I actually feel jon jones is balanced, he clearly is the best LHW fighter and most times if two even players played bader and jones, Jones will come out on 8/10 times. No one is unbeatable.

[TheRizzzle]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trillz

I actually feel jon jones is balanced, he clearly is the best LHW fighter and most times if two even players played bader and jones, Jones will come out on 8/10 times. No one is unbeatable.

Yeah, my argument would have more sense about a year ago.

This has been a crazy year of upsets. I thought about that right after I posted this.

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[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRizzzle

Here's an issue I have with the move set debate and online players complaining about the move sets. I feel like online players make this complaint a lot, but then they also don't want the attributes and ratings to be 100 percent correct either, for balancing purposes. In reality, Jon Jones is going to beat 99 percent of every opponent he ever faces, because he's that good. It wouldn't matter how good you are playing as Ryan Bader, Jones is so good he's going to beat Bader every time. His chin is that good, his offensive and defensive grappling is that good. So if you have two even players, whoever plays as Jones SHOULD win. They just should. But there are measures in place to make sure that Jones isn't too OP in the game, when IRL, he is an OP mutant. So when people get all up in arms about the fighters not having proper move sets, I'm like, OK but the balancing was going to dilute them back to being a skin of themselves in another way, so... Again, I'm an offline player, but I feel like online players want concessions made to the game play that affects my offline gaming, so when I see complaints about move sets I get it, but I don't get it at the same time. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

The only counter to this is that doesnt excuse the poor movesets for some fighters. Fighters who should have moves that are in the game but dont. I still agree with everything else you said here.

[Player2793]

I feel like from a competetive standpoint from a competetive game you cannot have characters that are just garbage and ones like Jones who are unstoppable.

Balance makes fighting games fun. Sure, you may enjoy beating bad players as Corey Anderson vs Jon Jones but you are handicapping yourself. I don't get why more people wouldnt want there to be move/perks/stat balances to gove incentives to pick different guys.

[TheRizzzle]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

The only counter to this is that doesnt excuse the poor movesets for some fighters. Fighters who should have moves that are in the game but dont. I still agree with everything else you said here.

No it doesn't excuse it, but I have a hard time getting too upset about it.

And yeah, I would love more move sets. But you know what, fighters break out moves you've never seen them do before all the time, and I think that was something they wanted to imitate in the first game.

Maybe get the move sets right, but have a button combo that will randomly throw something that even the person throwing it doesn't know what's coming.

Cain Velasquez had never thrown a spinning back kick before but when he launched it against Travis Browne, that was pretty cool, but I don't think he needs a spinning kick in his rotation.

But maybe making it where you have to hold an uncomfortable number of buttons (I don't have a proper way to describe this) and being in the proper range when you throw it, unleashes a random attack that if timed right does some serious damage (like Cain's random spinning kick).

You would have to balance it properly and sort of make it hard to pull off (you don't want Cain Velasquez becoming the HW Wonderboy), but there are other arcadey things (that isn't a complaint) like the Holloway taunt, that I think something like this could be fun...

And now I wait for the first NOPE.

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[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Player2793

I feel like from a competetive standpoint from a competetive game you cannot have characters that are just garbage and ones like Jones who are unstoppable. Balance makes fighting games fun. Sure, you may enjoy beating bad players as Corey Anderson vs Jon Jones but you are handicapping yourself. I don't get why more people wouldnt want there to be move/perks/stat balances to gove incentives to pick different guys.

My issue with that is it elimiates realism. Corey Anderson is a one dimensional youg fighter while Jones is perhaps the GOAT. There should be a huge difference in those fighters from a ratings and attributes perspective.

Maybe something should be done to balance the game online but offline I want the fighters to have skills like they do in real life...good or bad.

[TheRizzzle]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

My issue with that is it elimiates realism. Corey Anderson is a one dimensional youg fighter while Jones is perhaps the GOAT. There should be a huge difference in those fighters from a ratings and attributes perspective. Maybe something should be done to balance the game online but offline I want the fighters to have skills like they do in real life...good or bad.

Right on.

If I beat Jon Jones offline using Corey Anderson on Pro I want it to feel like a monumental historical upset.

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[fishingtime]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

My issue with that is it elimiates realism. Corey Anderson is a one dimensional youg fighter while Jones is perhaps the GOAT. There should be a huge difference in those fighters from a ratings and attributes perspective. Maybe something should be done to balance the game online but offline I want the fighters to have skills like they do in real life...good or bad.

Have you tried to rock an opponent with lower stats? The way the game is, you can be so close but not enough. Had you done that with another fighter, it would be lights out. The reason I love using lower rated fighters against higher. The match will go longer if we aren't of equal skill. It takes much more to KO someone with a lower rated fighter. Even though that isn't the case in real life. In real life, anyone has a puncher's chance.

I'm not for flash KOs because I'm not sure they can get the timing right. They should. I showed at least two instances where it should have been. I understand people not wanting them, but no one complained about them in Undisputed unless they were talking about them being too hard. They were just perfect timing. That is why they were rare.