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Old 08-13-2016, 08:11 AM   #25
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Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

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The DT was Alan Branch.

In Madden 17, his ratings are as follows...

64 speed
54 agility
65 stamina
80 acceleration

How is what he did possible with those ratings?

This is why ratings are still a huge problem in Madden.
Maybe lowering his acceleration rating would help?
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:11 AM   #26
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So let me get this striaght, just because his Accel is 80, that alone gives him ability to sprint that fast for over 3 seconds. i mean as fast as a wr. Shouldnt his speed also , somehow play into that.

Like shouldn't a player with 88 speed , 80 accel be able to run faster than a 64 speed 80 accel anyone? Seems to me if a players speed rating is low, even with a higher accel, he should still be slow. Accel i thought just got you up to your top speed faster the higher it is....So this 64 speed guy could get to his top speed of "64" faster than someone with 65 accel.... What am im missing here?
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:56 AM   #27
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That Cardinal User should have ran for the first one the DT dropped back, but that's neither here nor there. Rex may have misunderstood the question, but I don't think that he would have been able to give a different answer even if he understood it correctly.

That a player can User a DT(or any player) way beyond his level of athleticism, is a design choice that is a like a giant anchor dragging down the authenticity of the gameplay, IMO. It keeps the game too tactics oriented, and less about solid football strategy.
It's just bc madden wants that ESports market so they need things like there where user control trumps everything else including real world physics and logic. Sure the opponent shoulda ran the ball but it doesn't make this any less unrealistic. When I play NBA 2k I don't get to be Lebron James with Norris Cole just bc I'm controlling him. I can't post up like Shaq with Jeff Teague just bc I'm controlling him. When I play the show i don't hit 20 home runs with Zach Greinke just bc I'm controlling him.

It should be a goal of all sports game to first and foremost represent their sport in the most authentic of manners.
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:05 AM   #28
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:50 is the main reason I rarely if ever watch preview videos anymore.

I know I'm gonna buy the game.
I know I'm not going to play the game the way the video guys do.
I know I'm likely to play on a higher difficulty level or with sliders which will make the game play different.
I know I'm gonna tweak or use a roster that tweaks the ratings to make them more realistic.
I dont play online much or against people who would do stuff like that so it doesnt bother me.

That doesnt mean they shouldnt fix things like this

These videos are for people who arent sure they are going to buy the game or who need a Madden fix before next week.
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:18 AM   #29
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I'm content with their explanation. I understand it's a video game and not everything can be turned perfectly. I am put off by the "well then run the ball at this user" comment. There are yearly exploits in this game. This might be one of them. It could potentially be super easy to engage with the OL, see it's a pass, and then sprint back (i.e. this exact play). After a couple days none of us are fooled by PA plays because the camera tips them off.
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:19 AM   #30
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So let me get this striaght, just because his Accel is 80, that alone gives him ability to sprint that fast for over 3 seconds. i mean as fast as a wr. Shouldnt his speed also , somehow play into that.

Like shouldn't a player with 88 speed , 80 accel be able to run faster than a 64 speed 80 accel anyone? Seems to me if a players speed rating is low, even with a higher accel, he should still be slow. Accel i thought just got you up to your top speed faster the higher it is....So this 64 speed guy could get to his top speed of "64" faster than someone with 65 accel.... What am im missing here?
This is the reason why I always play with the speed threshold on ZERO. I noticed out of the box years ago that linebackers were running down receivers. For some reason, Madden thinks it's ok for speed to not be accurately represented. Play with threshold on zero and it opens the game up a lot. Much more dynamic AND realistic.
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:22 AM   #31
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Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

Is it me or does the zone defense look toned down? It looks super weak in some areas. I see two players covering the same area, DBs covering empty space and players not properly passing off routes and staying in their zone. The flats with crossing routes look just as deadly as in 16.

I'm really not happy about the state of the of the game right now. It looks like they sped up the game play as well. I really don't even see to much of the gap play and the force/cutback defenders. It was much easier to identify in older madden videos. Now it is starting to look like the same old Madden where all you need to do is run the same play over and over.
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:36 AM   #32
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Alan Branch!! aka "The Ultimate Defensive Weapon!!" Hahaha
All jokes aside.. The game is improving.
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