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Old 07-26-2016, 05:10 PM   #49
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Re: MLB The Show 16 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Details Included

Two things I noticed in this patch:

1. Base running is still a major problem. Just yesterday I saw the animation where a base runner rounds the base and keeps running only to be out at the next base by literally 50 feet. This simply should not be happening.

2. Gameplay seems different. I play on Legend and before this patch, my sliders were tuned in such a way that was eliciting realistic numbers. However, after this patch, the CPU has averaged 16+ hits per game and even the user offense seems a bit easier. I had to lower the contact a bit to make the numbers realistic again. Anyone else seeing this?
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Old 07-26-2016, 05:25 PM   #50
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Two things I noticed in this patch:

1. Base running is still a major problem. Just yesterday I saw the animation where a base runner rounds the base and keeps running only to be out at the next base by literally 50 feet. This simply should not be happening.

2. Gameplay seems different. I play on Legend and before this patch, my sliders were tuned in such a way that was eliciting realistic numbers. However, after this patch, the CPU has averaged 16+ hits per game and even the user offense seems a bit easier. I had to lower the contact a bit to make the numbers realistic again. Anyone else seeing this?
P.A.D.,

I use your sliders and I did notice the base running issue a cpu runner ignored the 3rd base coach and rounded the base and was gunned down at home by a mile! I have seen this happen with default and using your sliders.

In response to the offense increase. I have not noticed much of a boost from either side. I use player lock so I watch all 9 innings and cpu at bats once the game watch option is turned on.
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Old 07-26-2016, 07:53 PM   #51
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Move speed to 9 to compensate for lack of steals - do the cpu teams know it's easier to steal or are they still trying to steal at the same rate as before? I doubt the AI manager code changes when sliders change.
Speed? No.

Steal Frequency - that's possible. Some sliders do at least "tweak" the AI (manager hook being a noted one). Baserunner speed influences decisions on the bases, imo, if for no other reason they get somewhere quicker and "read" that they can keep going. It's one reason why higher OF throwing arms can "scare" runners into staying put.

But that wouldn't apply to stealing. It might apply if the ball got away into CF, just like it seems to apply when deciding to try to advance on a PB/WP.

As for why have devs - other than to make the game in the first place, there are things in the engine sliders can't make a meaningful impact on, which is where they'd come in (and like I said in the rest of my post.....), assuming they feel there's a problem in the first place.
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Old 07-26-2016, 07:57 PM   #52
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1. Base running is still a major problem. Just yesterday I saw the animation where a base runner rounds the base and keeps running only to be out at the next base by literally 50 feet. This simply should not be happening.
Zunino did this - twice - in a recent game. I figured it's because I have baserunner speed on 7...and it wasn't THAT bad of a throw out, though so might not have been the same thing.


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2. Gameplay seems different. I play on Legend and before this patch, my sliders were tuned in such a way that was eliciting realistic numbers. However, after this patch, the CPU has averaged 16+ hits per game and even the user offense seems a bit easier. I had to lower the contact a bit to make the numbers realistic again. Anyone else seeing this?

I did, but it was a game in Coors, so I threw that out as Coors being Coors (W 15-8) and one of those things.

I played in my Boston franchise and have had four straight low scoring games (L 3-2, W 1-0, W 4-1, L 3-2 in 12 inn.), so for me that one wild game might have been Coors being Coors combined with fluky good day for offense (wind out maybe) indeed.

I'm still on All-Star, so maybe it's a Legend thing?
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:51 AM   #53
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Re: MLB The Show 16 Patch 1.07 Available Now, Details Included

I play on Hall of Fame default and nothing has changed on my end. Game plays the same as it did prior to the patch. I still get a variety of games from pitching duels, to offensive outbreaks, and in between.
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Speed? No.

Steal Frequency - that's possible. Some sliders do at least "tweak" the AI (manager hook being a noted one). Baserunner speed influences decisions on the bases, imo, if for no other reason they get somewhere quicker and "read" that they can keep going. It's one reason why higher OF throwing arms can "scare" runners into staying put.

But that wouldn't apply to stealing. It might apply if the ball got away into CF, just like it seems to apply when deciding to try to advance on a PB/WP.

As for why have devs - other than to make the game in the first place, there are things in the engine sliders can't make a meaningful impact on, which is where they'd come in (and like I said in the rest of my post.....), assuming they feel there's a problem in the first place.
Literally everybody who uses manage mode has reported too few runs scored. It's hard for me to believe the devs aren't aware of that and yet no fix. Either they don't know how to fix it or simply aren't interested.
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I don't know if this was brought up earlier, but in RTTS, am I the only one noticing that pitch counts are off? This is if you sim ahead in the count while on base or in the field; if the count starts at 3-2 and the pitcher is fresh in the game, the pitch count is 0.
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Literally everybody who uses manage mode has reported too few runs scored. It's hard for me to believe the devs aren't aware of that and yet no fix. Either they don't know how to fix it or simply aren't interested.

Or maybe they don't think that's a problem.

I.e. the players might not like it (assuming it's literally every single MoM player that plays The Show as you say), but the devs are saying "working as designed".

Not to mention that it's one thing to say "not enough runs, I don't like this, fix it" but another to say why runs are scoring infrequently and why sliders should not be the adjustment (that is why they are there after all).
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