Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Wide Receivers

[BreakingBad2013]

Quote: Originally Posted by jsteele14

I am all for wider ratings but this is too wide. It would make the superstar too powerful because you would likely be able to throw to that receiver nearly every time. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I could understand, but these are just overalls. The individual ratings would all be weighted by position, so a an 85 route could be elite where a 76 coverages would be able to keep up with them, not every single time, but not like 99 vs 10.

[Yazan Gable]

I thought 90+ was elite.

Quote: Originally Posted by BreakingBad2013

The caliber of a player is based on consistency and long term. Anyways, they need to spread ratings, you're focusing on the most minuscule thing in my entire post lol. 90+ to me should be compared to all time greats. Like Barry Sanders, Tom Brady, and Deion Sanders. There's certain players that may be great bust still not on their caliber.

You would keep Peyton Manning 90+ OVR in the 2015 NFL season considering how atrocious he played?

[mrprice33]

Quote: Originally Posted by BreakingBad2013

Also it's not arbitrary. 90+ is the highest you can go in madden. Isn't the highest level of football to be a hall of famer? It makes perfect sense

No it doesn't. The ratings scale doesn't work like that. The Madden ratings scale is more like US school grades than anything else.

90+ superstar player (A)
80+ solid starter (B)
70+ Fringe starter, solid backup (C)
60+ Replacement level (D)
50+ Below replacement level (F)

JaMarcus Russell being a 13 or a 51 doesn't really make a difference. He still stinks. And, if the NFL has shown us anything, it's that a lot of guys in the middle are interchangeable.

The only thing that really matters is the distribution of ratings. It should look like a bell curve, with the bulk of players falling somewhere between solid starter and slightly above replacement level, with a small set of players on one set of the curve representing superstars, and a slightly larger set (but still small) representing the dregs of the league.

[BreakingBad2013]

That's just to differentiate the caliber of players. A 95 vs a 76 doesn't mean the 96 will win all day every day. That 76 is still a really good player. But if you catch yourself in a bad situation with a 43 overall pass blocker on Von Miller, you probably need a TE or RB to stay in to help. Now Von won't win every play, but he'll absolutely make an impact more often than not.

[Yazan Gable]

Quote: Originally Posted by BreakingBad2013

That's just to differentiate the caliber of players. A 95 vs a 76 doesn't mean the 96 will win all day every day. That 76 is still a really good player. But if you catch yourself in a bad situation with a 43 overall pass blocker on Von Miller, you probably need a TE or RB to stay in to help. Now Von won't win every play, but he'll absolutely make an impact more often than not.

Why won't Von Miller win every time against someone who is less than half his equal? That's an absurdly large gap in skill level. That player is effectively a turnstile or a gust of wind that mildly inconveniences Von Miller.

[BreakingBad2013]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

No it doesn't. The ratings scale doesn't work like that. The Madden ratings scale is more like US school grades than anything else. 90+ superstar player (A) 80+ solid starter (B) 70+ Fringe starter, solid backup (C) 60+ Replacement level (D) 50+ Below replacement level (F) JaMarcus Russell being a 13 or a 51 doesn't really make a difference. He still stinks. And, if the NFL has shown us anything, it's that a lot of guys in the middle are interchangeable. The only thing that really matters is the distribution of ratings. It should look like a bell curve, with the bulk of players falling somewhere between solid starter and slightly above replacement level, with a small set of players on one set of the curve representing superstars, and a slightly larger set (but still small) representing the dregs of the league.

Most of the league falls into bench player or worse. And an even higher number falls into not being able to make it in the NFL. There are 255 players drafted every season, plus the signings of undrafted FAs. Of those, how many are 2nd string or even 3rd string players? How many are out of the league in less than 4 years?

[Yazan Gable]

Quote: Originally Posted by BreakingBad2013

Most of the league falls into bench player or worse. And an even higher number falls into not being able to make it in the NFL. There are 255 players drafted every season, plus the signings of undrafted FAs. Of those, how many are 2nd string or even 3rd string players? How many are out of the league in less than 4 years?

Just like in Madden's draft, most of them. Also, trying to give ratings to players based on career performance is silly since Madden ratings exist to give an idea of a player's performance in that season, not across their career.

[BreakingBad2013]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yazan Gable

Why won't Von Miller win every time against someone who is less than half his equal? That's an absurdly large gap in skill level. That player is effectively a turnstile or a gust of wind that mildly inconveniences Von Miller.

Because it would be vs a fringe starter (41-50) who is good enough to win here and there. Just not consistently. The gaps are only large with how we've been thinking of madden over the years.

Now if it were vs like a 22, then he'll get his butt kicked all day.