Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

[juduking]

I don't know. Aaron Rodgers looked above average last year without a number one receiver or a top tight end. Certainly not the best QB in the league. The best QB in the league would put up great numbers regardless of supporting cast, kind of like how Tom Brady does it with Edelman and Gronkowski hurt half the year. Like always though, body of work outweighs current ratings. Players should be rated based on what have you done for me lately, not their entire careers. Rodgers is low 90s in my opinion, not the best QB in the league.

[Godgers12]

Quote: Originally Posted by juduking

I don't know. Aaron Rodgers looked above average last year without a number one receiver or a top tight end. Certainly not the best QB in the league. The best QB in the league would put up great numbers regardless of supporting cast, kind of like how Tom Brady does it with Edelman and Gronkowski hurt half the year. Like always though, body of work outweighs current ratings. Players should be rated based on what have you done for me lately, not their entire careers. Rodgers is low 90s in my opinion, not the best QB in the league.

Rodgers had no WRs last year that could get open, that's not on him. Also, you take away Gronk, and Brady struggles just as bad if not worse than Rodgers last year.

[Yazan Gable]

Quote: Originally Posted by juduking

I don't know. Aaron Rodgers looked above average last year without a number one receiver or a top tight end. Certainly not the best QB in the league. The best QB in the league would put up great numbers regardless of supporting cast, kind of like how Tom Brady does it with Edelman and Gronkowski hurt half the year. Like always though, body of work outweighs current ratings. Players should be rated based on what have you done for me lately, not their entire careers. Rodgers is low 90s in my opinion, not the best QB in the league.

Aaron Rodgers was left with a certified No. 2 receiver trying to play No. 1 and a guy in Davante Adams who is incapable of getting separation or even catching the ball. Aaron Rodgers still made that questionable receiving corp and struggling offensive line look better than it should. Tom Brady had a better defense to help keep his team in the game and has an offensive scheme that requires him to get the ball out quickly to players who can get good yardage after the catch. Aaron Rodgers did not have that luxury with the receivers he was working with. He was making accurate throws to mediocre receivers who kept dropping his passes or being in the wrong place.

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[juduking]

Quote: Originally Posted by Godgers12

Rodgers had no WRs last year that could get open, that's not on him. Also, you take away Gronk, and Brady struggles just as bad if not worse than Rodgers last year.

I thought the argument was that a franchise QB, and certainly the best QB in the league makes those around him better? Rogers still put up decent numbers considering his receiving corps problems, but stats wise, he was middle of the pack. His ratings should reflect that, but with him being rated as the best quarterback in the NFL, it seems his body of work is outweighing his last years performance. That is the point I was trying to make.

[jwing7]

Quote: Originally Posted by Godgers12

Rodgers had no WRs last year that could get open, that's not on him. Also, you take away Gronk, and Brady struggles just as bad if not worse than Rodgers last year.

Brady and Manning made careers out of no name receivers. Stop being such a homer.

[The JareBear]

Quote: Originally Posted by jwing7

Brady and Manning made careers out of no name receivers. Stop being such a homer.

I definitely agree that Brady has made more millionaires than the lotto. I do think Manning had guys that were Pro Bowl bound with or without him, well, at least in a couple cases. I think he definitely made Julius Thomas a lot of money, though.

Honestly I understand the debate. Rodgers and Brady are both super beasts. Their ratings are awesome, regardless of who is higher.

[Yazan Gable]

Quote: Originally Posted by juduking

I thought the argument was that a franchise QB, and certainly the best QB in the league makes those around him better? Rogers still put up decent numbers considering his receiving corps problems, but stats wise, he was middle of the pack. His ratings should reflect that, but with him being rated as the best quarterback in the NFL, it seems his body of work is outweighing his last years performance. That is the point I was trying to make.

He did make them better. That's how bad what he had to use was. He was still an exceptional quarterback, but he was in a bad situation.

Quote: Originally Posted by jwing7

Brady and Manning made careers out of no name receivers. Stop being such a homer.

Legendary no-name receivers such as 19th overall pick Marvin Harrison, 30th overall Reggie Wayne, 22nd overall Demaryius Thomas, 82nd overall Emmanuel Sanders, 87th overall Eric Decker, 4th overall Edgerrin James and 30th overall Joseph Addai (they caught passes too.) Let's not forget 24th overall Ty Law, 65th overall Deion Branch, 42nd overall Rob Gronkowski, Hall of Fame no-name receiver Randy Moss, 32nd overall Ben Watson, 56th overall Shane Vereen. I mean, just loaded with terrible, undrafted day 3 players.

[Godgers12]

Quote: Originally Posted by juduking

I thought the argument was that a franchise QB, and certainly the best QB in the league makes those around him better? Rogers still put up decent numbers considering his receiving corps problems, but stats wise, he was middle of the pack. His ratings should reflect that, but with him being rated as the best quarterback in the NFL, it seems his body of work is outweighing his last years performance. That is the point I was trying to make.

So he's suppose to throw to WRs who are covered and throw 5 picks a game? Our entire WR corps was incapable of beating man. Brady wouldn't have done any better.