SCEA Bans Many Players for Using Exploits in MLB The Show 16

[SmashMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by oski96

Maybe you are just a born coward and don't feel comfortable standing up for yourself.

Come on, was this sentence really necessary?

[WaitTilNextYear]

The thing I find comical is look at all the toxic waste on Ramone's Twitter account right now. Some of these clowns were rightly banned whether they did exploits or not. I feel like their harassment and trolling is already grounds for being banned. If I had been banned, I'd certainly be more inclined to try and play nice so they'd show me mercy. Some of these bros, in all of their meatheadedness, can't even see that.

It really does seem like keeping an addict from their fix with some of the outrage out there. Not healthy at all.

[Gosens6]

In the end, people for sure cheated, but, I don't think everyone who was banned willingly cheated.

SDS didn't do enough investigating when it came to this issue in my opinion. They just swept through and banned everyone without seeing if this exploit could be achieved unintentionally.

They're so convinced in their ways, they won't listen to the people that really have done nothing wrong. They're like that school principal who's so convinced you started that food fight, when you were just a casualty who got food thrown on you.

They're not going to listen to any of the people who were banned without willingly cheating. That's the nature of the beast.

Not to bash him, but Ramone comes across as the kind of guy who thinks when he's right, and everyone else is wrong no matter what. It's a cocky kind of attitude that really rubs folks the wrong way.

That being said, I don't play games online, I don't know what stubs are for or how they even work, but, if you willingly and knowingly cheated the system and SDS, you deserve to get banned and I don't feel bad for you.

It's common sense there were some bans to people who had no idea what happened or why they got extra stubs, those people should be given a fair say to what's going on. SDS won't do that though, they're right and everyone else is wrong.

That's why I'm against all this micro transaction, card game BS. Their game has struggled significantly this year with game play issues and bugs, and all they care about are stubs and micro transactions and making more money. It's the same issue with madden, 2k, nhl and any other sports game with these stupid card games.

How many patches have been wasted just to fix card game issues? Back in the day, we'd get a majority of game play fixes in these patches, and at least 2 have been used for DD and BS card collecting.

Anyway, this is a touchy subject and a very tricky situation for everyone involved. I do hope those who did nothing wrong get their accounts back and justice is actually served.

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[cardinalbird5]

Quote: Originally Posted by NKRDIBL

Rumor is the glitch was deleted buy orders on your phone/tablet/pc then deleting them on your PS4 moment later. While the system didn't recognize the first delete. Double the stubs were returned into your account. If that's the case. There is zero chance anyone would be doing this unwillingly. Unless you cam think of a way it would be an accident. The "sweep" should be pretty strait forward. The game should code a time a buy order is placed. And should be giving an order number. If multiple receipts exist for that order number. I'm sure it would flag strait away. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk

I know guys who got banned that dont even use a second device or the website yet they got banned


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[cardinalbird5]

Quote: Originally Posted by oski96

I appreciate your answer and I am sure this is consistent with what SDS has said. However, and sadly, this is 100% incorrect. I know because I have never deleted orders from my computer and then done so on my PS4. I know that for a fact. I do market orders from work and then later come home. Under your scenario, the glitch would not be triggered. On weekends, i only use my computer when my son is on PS4 (otherwise, I do all trades from PS4 - since its way easier). If my son says he is done and I can play, I eventually go to the PS4, start the program and check my orders before playing a game. Under your scenario, that would not trigger the glitch. Yet, I have been banned. Many others have the same story as me. Some may be lying, but I would bet everything I own that not all of them are lying. In fact, I believe most are telling the truth. Anyhow, the answer to the question lies in what I believe to be the false assumption that the glitch can only be triggered intentionally, and in one certain manner. I believe the assumption is false, because I have never cleared my buy orders on computer or phone and then ran (I don't run anywhere, btw) to my PS4 to re-clear orders. I know that for a fact. You don't have to believe me, and it really doesn't matter if you do.

Just cuz u didnt get banned does not mean u unknowingly exploited it. It just means you were not in the top 1 pct


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[extremeskins04]

I think what SDS did was a bit of "crowd control" so to speak with the bans. They will for sure check everything and unban those folks that were legit.

Granted they probably could have just closed down the Marketplace and investigated it before throwing a ton of bans out where it's possible some innocent people got hit, but I mean it is what it is.

Quote: Originally Posted by oski96

Maybe you are just a born coward and don't feel comfortable standing up for yourself. Even if only out of principle, I do feel some things are worth fighting for. I happen to think this is one of them - even if it is just a $60.00 game.

Dude why are you taking personal shots against him? That is completely unnecessary.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Quote: Originally Posted by NKRDIBL

You don't get it. If they have wrongly (and legally) taken something away from you. Now even if you did nothing wrong they still have that right. It's there right. And Noone has labeled you a cheater. The world did not know you were a cheater. You came onto the forum saying you have been banned. They did not release a list of all the psn ID'S. Now if I was in your position. And a company took away my right to a product where I did nothing wrong. I wouldn't spend all my efforts trying to kiss and make up with them over a $60 item. If they're not going to cooperate with you. I would boycott them and spread the message about how ridiculous and unethical they have acted. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk

Quote: Originally Posted by oski96

I'm not planning on kissing up no matter what. I do plan on getting an explanation as to why I am banned and seeking an opportunity to show it was in error. Maybe you are just a born coward and don't feel comfortable standing up for yourself. Even if only out of principle, I do feel some things are worth fighting for. I happen to think this is one of them - even if it is just a $60.00 game.

Standing up for yourself & boycotting an international mega-corporation is the very opposite of cowardice.
Other than that, if you were in fact banned in error, I too would hope to get an explanation & opportunity to show it was an error. Barring that, a boycott is your next best hope.
Real cowardice would be to give them $60 again next year. IMO

[woodjer]

I'm strictly exhibition and franchise mode. I don't play the stubs mode(s?) at all so I've got no horse in this race. I'm sure that there were some people that were innocently banned and I hope they get everything squared away. I guess there are just a few points that I feel the need to respond to:

- Yes, the existence of the glitch was SDS' fault...but it's also the user's fault when they take advantage of it. By the logic of some posts, if the theft-prevention scanners go down at Best Buy and nobody is at the door, I can walk out with anything in the store and they shouldn't arrest me. I mean, it's not my responsibility to handle those things, is it?

- Sure, it's not my job to tell anyone about the situation above either but I do believe that there is a moral obligation to do so, if I'm aware of it. What's funny is that the "it's not my job to tell them about it" argument only seems to come up when the glitch means getting something for free that would otherwise cost money. If the glitch could be used to give some users 4 outs in an inning, the same people to use that argument would likely be filling up bug reports left and right...even though it's not their job.

- oski, you mentioned clearing transactions quickly with both a mouse click and pressing enter. Depending on the details behind this glitch, that may have caused it, especially if you're clicking a Cancel button and then pressing enter activates it again. That's pure speculation on my part but, whether you realized what was happening or not, that may be the issue right there. Then again, I'm no expert in how this stuff occurs normally.

- As for keeping the glitch a secret, we have little to no information about how long it existed. Since launch? Yeah, it probably would have spread more than what the ban numbers indicate. Was it a window of a few hours? Much less likely...and maybe it did spread very quickly to get to those numbers.

For oski, Jason, and anyone else that believes they were incorrectly banned, I truly hope that things get resolved quickly and justly. I feel for you though because, if you benefited from the exploit but didn't do so intentionally, that will be VERY difficult to prove and, like it or not, your purchase of a software license (which is really what "buying a game" is now) doesn't entitle you to any sort of due process.