Madden NFL 17 Features Several Key Presentation Improvements

[mrprice33]

Quote: Originally Posted by avwhitechic

Wow you sound like you helped create that baby... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Listen man, I own my own company, I have a kid, I have my own life. I'm in here because I want to be and because this community helped me get opportunities I wouldn't have had otherwise. I don't need to be. So if you want anybody to ever engage with you, don't let your saltiness show so hard.

[roadman]

It's time to move this conversation to something different, folks.

It's tiring to read the same stuff over and over again inside of this same thread.

[Gilley]

Quote: Originally Posted by avwhitechic

Wow you sound like you helped create that baby... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The dude has a point, and it's a major one. I haven't really posted here often and I mostly just lurk, but since I joined the board in 2012 it's been the same stuff every year. The dev team improves or adds a feature, and either people find things to nitpick about that feature or they move on to something else to complain about. Having constrictive criticisms of the game is great, that's how things lead to being improved, but the whole "this sucks" "this blows" BS gets so redundant.

[avwhitechic]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

Listen man, I own my own company, I have a kid, I have my own life. I'm in here because I want to be and because this community helped me get opportunities I wouldn't have had otherwise. I don't need to be. So if you want anybody to ever engage with you, don't let your saltiness show so hard.

I don't recall attacking or insulting you one time and if I did and didn't realize my apologies but I thought I could share my opinion on presentation on this particular post. Again I'm a consumer that's considering a purchase of a product that's lacking what I desire. Nothing personal towards you and whatever sacrifices you've had to make regarding the game or getting a chance to test it


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[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

but the fact is they make the engine crawl.

What about a custom camera vs a non custom camera makes the engine crawl? I could see the placement of a camera having an effect, but I'm, not sure how a camera being custom would make the graphics crawl.

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

Game. Development. Is. Triage. Remember that, burn it into your mind.

Game development should be about design, code, test, maintenance with enhancements going through the same steps. I don't have to burn software development into my brain, it already is. I've been designing and developing software since the 80's.

My question above is a serious question. I wonder if someone on the development team could answer it. There may be a legit reason.

[mrprice33]

Quote: Originally Posted by avwhitechic

I don't recall attacking or insulting you one time and if I did and didn't realize my apologies but I thought I could share my opinion on presentation on this particular post. Again I'm a consumer that's considering a purchase of a product that's lacking what I desire. Nothing personal towards you and whatever sacrifices you've had to make regarding the game or getting a chance to test it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No, it's no sacrifices at all. Your response to me was that it sounded like I helped create that baby, which is condescending and unnecessary. So I'm telling you that if you engage me like an adult I will do the same, but I have no obligation to engage with you at all, and you'd do well to remember that.

[avwhitechic]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

No, it's no sacrifices at all. Your response to me was that it sounded like I helped create that baby, which is condescending and unnecessary. So I'm telling you that if you engage me like an adult I will do the same, but I have no obligation to engage with you at all, and you'd do well to remember that.

Message received..trust me keyboard tounge wrestling ain't my thing


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[mrprice33]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

What about a custom camera vs a non custom camera makes the engine crawl? I could see the placement of a camera having an effect, but I'm, not sure how a camera being custom would make the graphics crawl. Game development should be about design, code, test, maintenance with enhancements going through the same steps. I don't have to burn software development into my brain, it already is. I've been designing and developing software since the 80's. My question above is a serious question. I wonder if someone on the development team could answer it. There may be a legit reason.

Because if you have a completely customizable camera it can placed in a position where the engine could be adversely affected. And if that's not a risk they're willing to take, then it's a risk they're not willing to take.

And really? You don't think game development is triage? Have you ever had to develop on a deadline? Have you ever had to do anything creative on a deadline? I've had to write reviews on deadline and I always wish I can go back and fix something after it's done. It's always about doing the best you can to meet your design philosophy and goals for that cycle. So yes, you have to make concessions, you have to let some things go for next time. It's hard to believe you have done software development in any serious way and not feel like that, as basically every software dev I've ever spoken to has described design as triage to me. Maybe you're just especially good at it.