Madden NFL 17 Video - Pocket Disengage and Ball Physics

[khaliib]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

There are specific QB strip animations that take place in the game, but I'm not sure that every DL should attempt to do them every time, if that's what this is trying to get across. Here's a story on the Broncos from 2012. Lots of good info in there about how Von Miller didn't try to do it until Elvis Dumervil really talked about it with him, and how Dumervil didn't try to do it early in his career, and how other guys on the Broncos admit they just don't remember to do it. It's definitely something every defensive player should be capable of, but there definitely is a tendency there that can't be ignored.

I mentioned it because until otherwise noted differently, "Hit Stick" type tackles on the QB triggered mostly as the mechanism for driving fumbles by QB's and possible weighted affect on the "Avoidance" animation triggering, even by Hum controlled players (didn't want to get into how "Auto" Avoidance is set to off which limited triggering in past releases).

Mentioned it to possibly be looked at on two fronts from what the short clip shows.

1) Strip Ball Trait (unless tuned/changed for M17) was set to off for most defensive players, yet it opens the door for other animations to trigger from AI QB Avoidance, break tackles and even its affect on the OL/DL interaction as players approached the "triggering window" of trait.

- for whatever reason, edge rushers bent the corner better against O-Tackles/TE's when they had the trait vs not having it. (not plecebo)

- both AI/Hum QB's would "auto" perform greater varied break tackle animations dependent on tacklers tackle rating.


2) was to really take a look at the weight of the "Hit Stick" triggering being the "main/if not only" mechanism to drive QB fumbling, as it's been for past releases. (relating to ball physics)

I've seen devs respond to some concerns from other clips, so thought I would toss a couple out there myself.

[TheBleedingRed21]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

How is it any different than what it's been in the past? I'm confused that defensive linemen going after the QB is a feature

You're missing the marketing aspect of this.. You're overreaching by claiming they are touting this as a feature.

"Lineman now disengage their block and go after QB outside pocket" sounds alpt worse to mainstream madden players than Pocket Disengage.

You have to understand the thought process of marketing a video game, these guys aren't amateurs.

[roadman]

One of my bigger beefs with the OL/DL over the past several Maddens, and I'm sure many others feel the same way, is the patty-cake patty cake they play all the time.

To me, it's a welcome addition if ratings play out better in these one on one situations and the DL/DE win out every so often.

And I don't give a hoot what marketing calls it.

Your mileage may vary.

[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

I'm not in marketing my dude. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well I mean you've played over 40 hours of the game lol was just asking if it's any different than what we've had

[mrprice33]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

Well I mean you've played over 40 hours of the game lol was just asking if it's any different than what we've had

Yeah, they peel off better than they did. I think it's glossed over in the video though because A) it's hard to show and B) it's not really a "feature" per se.

[Cam Fan]

Overall I'm pleased. However, the only big improvement I'd like to see is the AI offense adjust more to the defensive formations...check out of formations and make the user have to really disguise plays.

[Cowboy008]

Someone pointed it out on twitter that it looks like Brady has a generic stance now. Clint said he's going to look into it.

[smiley3]

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