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Old 06-07-2016, 05:48 PM   #49
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Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Pocket Disengage and Ball Physics

In these clips the Qb's look like sitting ducks, I really hope Qb's have the awareness to attempt to dodge sacks and fight them off more often, would love to see more struggle tackles during sack attempts.
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Tip looked great, never seen anything even remotely close to that in previous Maddens.
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What exactly are pocket disengage moves?
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What exactly are pocket disengage moves?
It's the DL peeling off blocks to get to the QB. It's not well-explained in the video but that's what the Eli play was supposed to demonstrate.
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- instead of it being a Trait, "ALL" defensive players should have Strip Ball enabled to trigger the attempt when interacting with the QB instead of requiring a "Big Hit" animation triggering a fumble by the QB.
There are specific QB strip animations that take place in the game, but I'm not sure that every DL should attempt to do them every time, if that's what this is trying to get across.

Here's a story on the Broncos from 2012. Lots of good info in there about how Von Miller didn't try to do it until Elvis Dumervil really talked about it with him, and how Dumervil didn't try to do it early in his career, and how other guys on the Broncos admit they just don't remember to do it.

It's definitely something every defensive player should be capable of, but there definitely is a tendency there that can't be ignored.
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It's the DL peeling off blocks to get to the QB. It's not well-explained in the video but that's what the Eli play was supposed to demonstrate.
How is it any different than what it's been in the past? I'm confused that defensive linemen going after the QB is a feature
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How is it any different than what it's been in the past? I'm confused that defensive linemen going after the QB is a feature


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How is it any different than what it's been in the past? I'm confused that defensive linemen going after the QB is a feature
In the past dlinemen would be "glued" to the olineman for a much longer time when the QB rolled outside of the pocket. This is why basically every H2H player would roll out to pass on every play because the DL couldn't simply disengage and go right at him.

It was better last year and I'm just guessing that it's even better this year where they can attack those QBs out of the pocket even more quickly. If they had shown that Eli sack from the gameplay angle all the way, everyone would have a better sense of what they're talking about.

It really shouldn't be a "feature" per se, but because of the Madden legacy issues on this front, it logically is getting some attention.
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