Madden NFL 17 Video - New Juke Moves and Score Bug/Banner

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

Ill chalk that up to being played on rookie but certainly something to keep an eye on

Maybe this will be the year that's the case. Every other year we attribute passive play to difficulty level, the passive play is present on all levels. And this particular issue has been in the game forever.

Even if it's difficulty, I don't like how it's handled. I'd like to see defenders do their job and just get blocked, fill the wrong gap, overrun the play, etc. LBs sitting and waiting on an obvious run play is atypical.

[SportsGamer94]

I see they still have it where they go directly into signature celebration as soon as the cross the goal line, to me it seems a little too fast. I would like to see them jog or walk little further into the end zone or do a team celebration first before they do a solo/signature celebration.

[khaliib]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

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Than you jd for posting this.

As mentioned earlier, a lot of over reaction/reaching without having all the info to know what's driving that particular outcome.

With that, love that the PRC is driving/dictating how well an AI defensive player plays his responsibility/technique.

So the impact of PRC (read & react)+ PUR (angle taken) will be crucial towards the fluidity and execution of Juke moves.

Ratings impacting "specific" aspects of the game, love it!!!

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by khaliib

Than you jd for posting this. As mentioned earlier, a lot of over reaction/reaching without having all the info to know what's driving that particular outcome. With that, love that the PRC is driving/dictating how well an AI defensive player plays his responsibility/technique. So the impact of PRC (read & react)+ PUR (angle taken) will be crucial towards the fluidity and execution of Juke moves. Ratings impacting "specific" aspects of the game, love it!!!

Maybe someone could ask him about the MLB and playside OLB. Both played way too soft for me.

[OhMrHanky]

Quote: Originally Posted by SportsGamer94

I see they still have it where they go directly into signature celebration as soon as the cross the goal line, to me it seems a little too fast. I would like to see them jog or walk little further into the end zone or do a team celebration first before they do a solo/signature celebration.

I would hope it's different/dynamic, meaning sometimes it's right when they cross the goaline, and other times, it's a little after they're in the end zone. I thought the transition from score to celebration looked better synced, though, than from last year. There was always that 'lag-pause'. The transition was always slightly off, I'd say. This transition looked more seamless, anyways.


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[khaliib]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Maybe someone could ask him about the MLB and playside OLB. Both played way too soft for me.

I'm sure we'll get deeper into the Read & React portion of the defense as the blogs and communication around them will allow for more in depth discussion, but since this particular video was chosen to highlight the changes in the "juke" move, I'm just trying to keep focus on that.

One major outcry was that there was no "player differentiation" or not evident enough during gameplay.
That everyone played like a stud.

Since the Saints don't have any studs at LB, It would be an eye sore to see "every" player reacting/playing perfectly on a play.

It's really looking good though!!!

[4thQtrStre5S]

Quote: Originally Posted by khaliib

I'm sure we'll get deeper into the Read & React portion of the defense as the blogs and communication around them will allow for more in depth discussion, but since this particular video was chosen to highlight the changes in the "juke" move, I'm just trying to keep focus on that. One major outcry was that there was no "player differentiation" or not evident enough during gameplay. That everyone played like a stud. Since the Saints don't have any studs at LB, It would be an eye sore to see "every" player reacting/playing perfectly on a play. It's really looking good though!!!

I agree, we seem to look at madden and point out what a player should do in relation to what they are doing, and say the game isn't presenting true football; though the thing is, ratings/ability of a player, in madden, and in real football, cause player to miss assignments, or be out of position, etc.

I think many of us have to step back and remember that no player is always in the correct position or makes the correct read, etc. and Madden represents this in game, and I hope that more ratings are presented more prominently in M17, as it appears PRC may have a bigger impact now.

I guess the Saints need to drat a stud LB..

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S

I agree, we seem to look at madden and point out what a player should do in relation to what they are doing, and say the game isn't presenting true football; though the thing is, ratings/ability of a player, in madden, and in real football, cause player to miss assignments, or be out of position, etc. I think many of us have to step back and remember that no player is always in the correct position or makes the correct read, etc. and Madden represents this in game, and I hope that more ratings are presented more prominently in M17, as it appears PRC may have a bigger impact now. I guess the Saints need to drat a stud LB..

Quote: Originally Posted by khaliib

...One major outcry was that there was no "player differentiation" or not evident enough during gameplay. That everyone played like a stud. Since the Saints don't have any studs at LB, It would be an eye sore to see "every" player reacting/playing perfectly on a play. It's really looking good though!!!

A few things...

LBs play run 1st unless it's an obvious passing down. Their read step tends to be forward.

You don't have to be a stud to read a down block by a tackle or a pulling guard.

This is a legacy issue. While folks were complaining that everyone played like studs, LBs still reacted as they do in this vid.

But let's see how this looks in a vid meant to address what I'm talking about. Though this issue has been a problem forever, this could be the year it's different. Lookimg forward to higher difficulty gameplay vids.