Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

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For anyone still wondering why there will be no cover vote this year, the first year since 2009, a representative of EA was quoted as saying "With this election year upon us, we don't want you to lose sleep over another big decision," the rep said. "So, we decided to take the pressure off this year and hand-select someone for the job.".

[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

As I said, the high expectations are on others. It should be shoot high, aim low, or you will continue to be disappointed and not just in the only NFL football video ball game in town. As I also stated, that's fine if you don't wish to hop on the Rex train. I already climbed on it. And people will always complain because it's the thing to do, nothing has changed in the last decade on that note. That's all I'm saying on the matter.

Nah man. Just nah. We're talking basic fundamental football. That's not a "high expectation" that's a minimum expectation.

People wanted the WR/DB stuff, they didn't want warping, sliding, bending, and all the other junk that came with it.

People wanted better line interactions, but they didn't want blockers completely ignoring obvious assignments right in front of them. This isn't a matter of gamers expectations, it's a matter of the game not meeting minimum standards. Besides, even if gamers had no expectations, what does that have to do with blockers who consistently fail to make basic blocking assignments, and WR/DB skating into position just to finish a pre-determined animation sequence? Wouldn't that still be a deficiency regardless of expectation? I would think so.

I just don't understand how speaking in facts is something that upsets people. If things worked properly and without all the shenanigans, the complaints wouldn't be there for said shenanigans. It's not like the visual evidence is made-up. It's being captured from the actual game.

[Dwaresacksqb]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gridiron

His resume is more than long enough. He's been there for 4 games and now 5 with 17 coming. And keep in mind that he was part of the transition from last gen to current. I also realize he's not a programmer, he doesn't animate, he doesn't code, so his impact has plenty of limits. That's why I'm saying I'm not all that swayed by what the public figures say. It's not even personal, I just realize there is more going on under the hood than what can be talked about on Twitter.

I was really referring to his resume of speaking publicly on issues that need to be addressed and making those statements translate into a feature of Madden we can hang our hat on. Everything else you stated is accurate. Just hoping that Rex, with the good PR hes accumulated, could use that to further influence the games development.

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IF FG's and XP are still automatic, I won't even give this game a second look. If they make that more dynamic then I'll take some interest and see if some of the other areas are fixed. I also want to see just a fumble slider that is not linked to overall running back ability.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gridiron

Nah man. Just nah. We're talking basic fundamental football. That's not a "high expectation" that's a minimum expectation. People wanted the WR/DB stuff, they didn't want warping, sliding, bending, and all the other junk that came with it. People wanted better line interactions, but they didn't want blockers completely ignoring obvious assignments right in front of them. This isn't a matter of gamers expectations, it's a matter of the game not meeting minimum standards. Besides, even if gamers had no expectations, what does that have to do with blockers who consistently fail to make basic blocking assignments, and WR/DB skating into position just to finish a pre-determined animation sequence? Wouldn't that still be a deficiency regardless of expectation? I would think so. I just don't understand how speaking in facts is something that upsets people. If things worked properly and without all the shenanigans, the complaints wouldn't be there for said shenanigans. It's not like the visual evidence is made-up. It's being captured from the actual game.

Where are you seeing failed blocking assignments on May 10th with the sliders I am using? I played a game last night and replayed 50% of the plays. Not one failed blocking assignment that I noticed.

Yeah, the WR/DB animations you are correct, but not the all of the blocking assignments are missed.

[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dwaresacksqb

I was really referring to his resume of speaking publicly on issues that need to be addressed and making those statements translate into a feature of Madden we can hang our hat on. Everything else you stated is accurate. Just hoping that Rex, with the good PR hes accumulated, could use that to further influence the games development.

TBH, the Twitters people should be hitting up are of the Lead Animator and the Lead Programmer. You want the source of most of our problems, start there. Not sure they would even take what we say seriously, and I remember years ago the the Lead Animator showed up here and exploded on the "community" once, even though the people were right then, the animations were bad, and they still aren't good now. Still, at least you'd be talking to the people responsible for the animation issues and the AI issues directly. Guys who actually physically impact the game hands-on.

[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Where are you seeing failed blocking assignments on May 10th with the sliders I am using? I played a game last night and replayed 50% of the plays. Not one failed blocking assignment that I noticed. Yeah, the WR/DB animations you are correct, but not the all of the blocking assignments are missed.

How can I get your sliders?

[Dwaresacksqb]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Where are you seeing failed blocking assignments on May 10th with the sliders I am using? I played a game last night and replayed 50% of the plays. Not one failed blocking assignment that I noticed. Yeah, the other points you have, but not the all of the blocking assignments are missed.

There are failed blocking assignments in real life too. Just ask Tony Romo lol. We shouldn't have perfect line play in Madden 17. The amount of failed assignments I see with charters all madden sliders are pretty close to what I see in real life. That was never my issue with the line play. It's deeper than that. I just wanted to touch on what you're speaking about.

Edit: if I throw in a rookie lineman. And he has low awareness. I would be pretty upset if I didn't see some missed assignments once in a while. I actually think Madden 17 could do more to differentiate the great lineman in the league with good O line coaches with the poor O lineman and poor coaching.