An Early Look at Madden NFL 17 Presentation

[SBAlki]

Man I've never seen so many guys complaining about shoes and accessories. Especially judging from one picture. Nobody even knows when this picture is from. Also, nobody gets had any real idea how to develop a game or the process involved. If I was a gaming company I wouldn't give out any info or screen shots either. This is a crazy reaction to a picture

Kind of reminds me of my daughter and her friends. "Oh look, those shoes are ugly, I can't believe she would wear those."

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[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by MajorSupreme

Yeah, and maybe it's just me, but it seems that player models in Madden cannot completely straighten out their legs.

This. In stills madden looks great but once they start animating the player models just looks so unnatural especially since they implemented the new engine, players limbs bend in weird ways, guys miraculously hold onto the ball with one arm behind their back while being tackled.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

This. In stills madden looks great but once they start animating the player models just looks so unnatural especially since they implemented the new engine, players limbs bend in weird ways, guys miraculously hold onto the ball with one arm behind their back while being tackled.

Not nearly as much as a few years ago, 16 definitely showed improvement in this area.

[brandon27]

I think there's a real disconnect between EA and the Madden players, actually... more so the madden players and EA when it comes to presentation. I suppose this argument works either way though.


The way I see it, EA isn't trying to replicate ESPN, CBS, or FOX presentation. I mean, that's obvious. What they're doing is creating their own, as if they are actually broadcasting the game you're playing. Rather than trying to make it look like you're playing a game being broadcast on CBS.


So, of course it doesn't look like anything you'd see on Sunday, because EA doesn't broadcast football games on television.


Now, the pose in the screen itself. I'm not a big fan of it. It's an interesting way to show player introductions, and it takes out blank faces for players with out pics, and it takes out generic face pics for future draft picks, so that's a plus. I don't like the style of it, it kind of makes sense though. It's not like it's out of the realm of possibility for one of the NFL's network partners to do this though. Isn't it ESPN with their MNF package that has players posing like that when they show their lineup overlays? Sure, they aren't in full equipment, but they're live, they're sometimes of a player goofing around. Or maybe it's a college broadcast I'm thinking of... Either way, it's not like it's something we haven't seen.


I think EA's perspective on presentation is fine. I don't need my game to resemble a CBS or Fox, or ESPN broadcast. If it did... that's fine, but I don't need the network log's and such. I'm fine with it being an "EA Sports" broadcast, as long as it still somewhat resembles a network broadcast. It does really, it's just not exactly what we see on Sundays, and in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with that.


It's april. Release is 4 months away on this, I'm not going to go too crazy about the screenshot, I think it looks fine. I don't think we are going to see graphics quality increase dramatically at this point, they're already great. So it's no surprise that it looks good.


There's just not enough to look at in here and take away anything.

[Black Bruce Wayne]

At what part during a game do teams do this? Sigh, here we go again. Another year , another toxic relationship with Madden. It might be time to break up after 20 years of marriage.

[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

Reminds me of a mix between the MNF intros and stylized defensive/offensive unit broadcast graphics but with the liberties you can take in a video game you can place them on the field instead of the one-by-one or in a collage.

On the real, the liberties they take with this game is a big part of what's holding it back. This is but one more small example.

Don't know why they just can't do broadcast and let it be. Why do they think that's such a bad idea? What exactly are they accomplishing with these liberties other than trying to be different for the sake of being different?

I just don't understand what their deal is.

[SageInfinite]

I definitely think the equipment is placeholder equipment. I'm not jumping the game on that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was left untouched for another year.

Now when videos come out, that's usually when 95% of the time, that's what you're going to get on your console.

Way too early to jump the gun, but let's not act like people aren't basing their opinions on the game we've been getting for a decade.

[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by brandon27

I think there's a real disconnect between EA and the Madden players, actually... more so the madden players and EA when it comes to presentation. I suppose this argument works either way though. The way I see it, EA isn't trying to replicate ESPN, CBS, or FOX presentation. I mean, that's obvious. What they're doing is creating their own, as if they are actually broadcasting the game you're playing. Rather than trying to make it look like you're playing a game being broadcast on CBS. So, of course it doesn't look like anything you'd see on Sunday, because EA doesn't broadcast football games on television. Now, the pose in the screen itself. I'm not a big fan of it. It's an interesting way to show player introductions, and it takes out blank faces for players with out pics, and it takes out generic face pics for future draft picks, so that's a plus. I don't like the style of it, it kind of makes sense though. It's not like it's out of the realm of possibility for one of the NFL's network partners to do this though. Isn't it ESPN with their MNF package that has players posing like that when they show their lineup overlays? Sure, they aren't in full equipment, but they're live, they're sometimes of a player goofing around. Or maybe it's a college broadcast I'm thinking of... Either way, it's not like it's something we haven't seen. I think EA's perspective on presentation is fine. I don't need my game to resemble a CBS or Fox, or ESPN broadcast. If it did... that's fine, but I don't need the network log's and such. I'm fine with it being an "EA Sports" broadcast, as long as it still somewhat resembles a network broadcast. It does really, it's just not exactly what we see on Sundays, and in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with that. It's april. Release is 4 months away on this, I'm not going to go too crazy about the screenshot, I think it looks fine. I don't think we are going to see graphics quality increase dramatically at this point, they're already great. So it's no surprise that it looks good. There's just not enough to look at in here and take away anything.

The flaw in that entire post is that starting with Madden 10 they were on the "Everything you see on Sundays, see it in Madden NFL" mantra, and also their own words of saying their goal is a true simulation. Hard to meet that if you do things that aren't true to the simulation of the game we see every Sunday.

My thing is, if you're telling me that I'm going to see in Madden what I see on Sundays, do that. Stop trying to add creativity to places it's not needed. It's totally pointless and just comes off weird. I thought they learned their lesson with "beyond broadcast" from Madden 09. Guess I thought wrong.