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Old 04-02-2016, 01:06 AM   #33
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The grips have not changed. They still vary pitch type to pitch type. What you are highlighting there is the release. In MLB15, the pitch grip was maintained even after the ball was released. Now, pitchers/fielders look like the are actually letting the ball go during a pitch/throw animation.
I hate to say it but that's not realistic at all. Pitchers irl do maintain their grip right after the ball leaves their hand.
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:18 AM   #34
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I hate to say it but that's not realistic at all. Pitchers irl do maintain their grip right after the ball leaves their hand.


You don't have to hate to say it. That's what they do in the game too. They maintain their grip for a split second after the ball is gone before going into a full release.
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You don't have to hate to say it. That's what they do in the game too. They maintain their grip for a split second after the ball is gone before going into a full release.


Still doesn't seem exceptionally realistic. When a pitcher throws a breaking ball, his hand stays in that grip until the arm comes all the way down.
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Still doesn't seem exceptionally realistic. When a pitcher throws a breaking ball, his hand stays in that grip until the arm comes all the way down.


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I think it varies a lot from pitcher to pitcher and pitch to pitch. I think this is a fairly realistic common ground for a video game which gives a better feel for the ball actually being hurled.
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I think it varies a lot from pitcher to pitcher and pitch to pitch. I think this is a fairly realistic common ground for a video game which gives a better feel for the ball actually being hurled.


If you look at his hand, the two fingers that grip the ball are the prevalent ones, the others seem to be dangling down. I think the only time you'd truly see a pitcher open up his hand like in the image depicted in the game is if the pitcher was throwing a palm ball or a knuckleball.
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Old 04-02-2016, 04:46 AM   #39
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Sometimes I feel happy I have just a basic/intermediate knowledge of the sport of baseball. This little thing with the pitching grip and your debate looks outlandish to me. I just enjoy the gameplay and have fun.
I understand though the debate as many times I do the same with minor aspects of NBA2k.
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With regards to a pitcher's hand and finger positioning on a pitch, I'll just say I agree with P.A.D. and Steven78.


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Off thread topic, I guess. I'll create a thread in the future (probably months down the line that deals with the following [pitching motion]). I was actually going to wait to address the below points but since an SCEA developer is responding to other individuals about "pitching," I figured I'll throw in my two cents, all to hopefully get the game to greater heights.


Two concerns:

(A) Hand/finger grip position

That was actually the second thing I noticed during gameplay that took away from an immersive experience unfortunately. A static image doesn't always tell the whole story, but google image gives a good indication that all pitches still has the pitcher's hand/finger in a gripped position (as opposed to fully opened palms) once the ball is released.

(B) Arm whip for all pitchers should be much faster.

The first and primary thing that unfortunately still readily takes away from an immersive experience comes down to the pitcher's follow through/arm motion/body english. Pitching a baseball is a magnificent beautiful violent forceful behavior. The Show's pitcher is still missing the true characteristic of a pitch. Hone in on the body english and especially the arm motion follow through.

The whip of the arm realistically should be a blur. It should be fairly blurry to the eye because it's a very violent incredibly fast action. MLB the Show's arm whip has a very calculated clean comparatively slow(er) motion.


The above second point brings us full circle to the first point. If I could actually see the pitcher's hand in a fully opened position during regular gameplay speed, that is a good indication that the arm whip isn't fast enough. If my recollection and understanding is correct, I shouldn't be able to see the "release point grip" of the pitcher while watching a major league pitch.



SIDE NOTE

I decided to buy MLB16 digitally this year for one important purpose. When time permits, I want to capture all pitchers (or as much pitchers as possible) in the game (in gif format) and do a visual comparison to the pitchers' real life counterpart to showcase the "missing element" that still escape MLB the Show pitchers. And ultimately submit it to the developers of MLB the Show. This will be a time consuming project ... meaning I'll have to find the time to do it.





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