EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Here are some quick tips: 1) Slow down. This was the biggest issue I had when I first played the ground game. Im so used to it past games ground systems being a race to be the first person that transitioned so all I would think about is going to the next transition. Thats not the case here. I wish I could record it to show you guys what I do but each time I go for a transition, I'm also trying to anticipate the what my opponent is going to do. The denial windows are somewhat small (I would like them to be a little longer) but if you anticipate what your your opponent is going to do, you can usually get a denial. FYI, this is a beta so there are a few positions that have bugs when it comes to denials. The same goes with the issues in the clinch. The devs are working on fixing those before release. 2) Watch the hands: When in half guard, side control or full mount, there are pretty easy tells regarding which way they are going. If you watch your opponents hands/arms, you should be able to anticipate which side they are going. Remember the direction your opponent is transitioning matters so you have to guess right to get a denial. 3) Use punches to get grapple advantage even when on bottom. That should help you transition easier from the bottom.

Denials - Ok, so I'll explain how I play since I can't show it. Coming from UFC 1 I'm extremely use to landing in top control from a take down THEN doing nothing because they will spam get outs. Then I watch the hands closely which direction they attempt to go, boom RT+RS direction to block.......sad thing it results in a pass by the Non-Dom 2 outta 3 times. I will get a denial but the next two or three attempts by the Non-Dom will pass on thru easy. This is also me not even attempting to pass but just sit and deny.

It isn't from me not understand how the denial works because I ran thru all the challenges and did practice mode for a while. The system isn't very complicated but doesn't seem to matter so much on stick skill. Even if you land a denial correctly there is still a larger chance the pass will happen no matter if you timed the denial right.

Clinch - Now moving on to clinching, I got in a hell of a workout last night with one guy. He did one single tactic and I will explain it.

He would walk me back till I was near the cage, grab in clinch, push against cage, throw knee strike, I'd hold R2 to block any strike coming from legs of opponent, I'd immediately pummel, he would push off break clinch, while I was stuck in animation to break out, he would clinch again and repeat.

If he attempted to pummel his left arm under my right arm, I'd hold R2+RS Right. He would pass to Thai clinch every time. So I said hummm maybe its R2 + RS Left......nothing, still passed to thai. So then I remember the challenge saying something about R2+RS Up so I tried that....nothing. This went on for 3 rounds so I got in one hell of a clinch workout and I wasn't stressing winning. I was just taking my time and attempting to learn how to block the passes......nothing would work so I was baffled.

Stand up -Now from a stand up standpoint the game functions very nice. The head movement is smooth, punch accuracy is beautiful with plenty of glancing blows, lunges are much smaller which is nice, and power seems to be correct. My two issues currently with the stand up is stamina reduction from missed strikes is WAY WAY to low and like Dave commented on. When you have a guy rocked two things happen which sucks, 1) they can retreat faster than you can close 2) Swarm animation never triggers correctly, I'd say somewhere around 1 out of 5 times it MIGHT trigger into the fast punches.

All in all I'm loving the beta and will spend more time with it tonight. I'm still fairly certain I will have the same issues with the ground game tonight. I'd love to run some matches with you tonight Aholbert so we could do some labbing on the ground.

Edit: One other complaint I just thought of.

Parries - Parries are still extremely easy to hit and this isn't necessary a bad thing considering how easy it is for the striker to go high or low. Since now blocking is using both R1 and R2 depending on the location of the attack to parry it isn't quite as bad as UFC 1 with being a parry fest. Yes I will parry every 3 or 4 strikes in a succession but several will land glancing or square in-between the high/low attack sequence.

My complaint stems more from the fact counter strikes off the parry do NOT do enough damage. It feels safer to just regular block then strike out of the block. 1) you don't accidently throw a strike attempting to parry which then opens you to some shots you didnt mean to take 2) There is not much of an incentive to go for the parry and after so many rounds online parrying then landing a body shot over and over, the benefit to drawback seems to lean more towards a drawback.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Is it March 15th yet? No? ****.

I Ko'd someone with a straight for the first time last night. That was nice to see. I'm dying to get my hands on the rest of this roster right now. Guess I'll just have to get my fights in before the beta ends.

[HartmanTeets6]

Any idea when the game "goes away"? I know today, but I'm wondering how long I can play it tonight.

thanks!

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by HartmanTeets6

Any idea when the game "goes away"? I know today, but I'm wondering how long I can play it tonight. thanks!

This link shows Feb 4th
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...uary-28-a.html

[GameplayDevUFC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pappy Knuckles

There's two positions that I can't seem to defend no matter what. 1. When I'm in the opponents guard and they take my back. 2. Keeping myself out of being put into the crucifix Any feedback here would be helpful. Is my timing just garbage on these particular moves?

The arm drag from guard should be really easy to defend as it has a pretty big denial window. You deny in the same direction the attackers arm is moving to. The same side as the arm he drags.

The crucifix one in the beta is deny down, but I'm going to change that to be the same as the side saddle/north south transition as people find the tells too similar to have it be a different direction.

As a general rule, go to practice mode and use the defensive HUD to learn denial directions.

[TheShizNo1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pappy Knuckles

God, I love beating up on Stephen Thompson players. The spinning **** is out of control lol.

Don't hate, man lol. I'm all about the spinning body kicks when guys don't feel the need to low block. As soon as they forget to high block from the body kicks, knock em down with the spinning back kick.

[aholbert32]

Phobia,

I read your post and have a response but I'm stuck in an all day seminar. We can get some fights in tonight but I won't be home until late because I'm going to the Wizards/warriors game. Send me a friend invite if we aren't already friends.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

Don't hate, man lol. I'm all about the spinning body kicks when guys don't feel the need to low block. As soon as they forget to high block from the body kicks, knock em down with the spinning back kick.

I respect the spinning ****, but I'm pretty confident that you don't spaz out on it either. Guys don't even try to set anything up, they just throw them over and over. I just sit there laughing most of the time .