Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Ok, I understand, I just don't agree with not grading on production at the moment. Rodgers is off this year, not just that his WR's can't get separation, plus, he is holding onto the ball too long. I can see that and I'm not a scout. lol

Well, then I guess it is a good thing that Rodgers isn't graded on his ability to block or get open for himself, right?

Without derailing too much, in my database Rodgers has an injury hold this year...to his right shoulder...popped up in the database the week after the Chargers game and hasn't been removed yet...and...nobody has publically said anything about it aside from the one week he showed up on the injury report weeks after that game. Coincidence??? Honestly, the guy is hurt...at least my scouts say he is...very odd.

[ggsimmonds]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Ok, I understand, I just don't agree with not grading on production at the moment. Rodgers is off this year, not just that his WR's can't get separation, plus, he is holding onto the ball too long. I can see that and I'm not a scout. lol

He's always held on to the ball longer than what is liked though right?

I thought the only difference this year is that it is hurting them more than it has in the past.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

Well, then I guess it is a good thing that Rodgers isn't graded on his ability to block or get open for himself, right? Without derailing too much, in my database Rodgers has an injury hold this year...to his right shoulder...popped up in the database the week after the Chargers game and hasn't been removed yet...and...nobody has publically said anything about it aside from the one week he showed up on the injury report weeks after that game. Coincidence??? Honestly, the guy is hurt...at least my scouts say he is...very odd.

I agree, very odd.

I found this:

Coach Mike McCarthy described Rodgers as "banged up" on Wednesday, a term Rodgers said was accurate.

"But we all are at this time," Rodgers said. "It's Week 11 coming up, everybody is dealing with different things. That's the NFL. You get a routine, learn how to take care of your body and push through things."

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by ggsimmonds

He's always held on to the ball longer than what is liked though right? I thought the only difference this year is that it is hurting them more than it has in the past.

True, but this year he is double clutching the ball more and more. He just needs to throw the ball away more often.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I agree, very odd. I found this: Coach Mike McCarthy described Rodgers as "banged up" on Wednesday, a term Rodgers said was accurate. "But we all are at this time," Rodgers said. "It's Week 11 coming up, everybody is dealing with different things. That's the NFL. You get a routine, learn how to take care of your body and push through things."

I remember him saying that. Alas, no mention of his shoulder, kind of like how there was no mention of Hawk's foot injury all last year until after the season was over...even though I had an injury hold on his crippled butt all year! I'm telling you...these scouts know what they are doing and there are no secrets in the NFL...they can spot injuries from a mile away when you watch what a guy does every play of his career.

EDIT: have you also noticed how he is throwing more side-arm this year? I'm telling you, if he says anything when our season ends (prolly in 2 weeks the way they are playing now) it will be about that throwing shoulder.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

I remember him saying that. Alas, no mention of his shoulder, kind of like how there was no mention of Hawk's foot injury all last year until after the season was over...even though I had an injury hold on his crippled butt all year! I'm telling you...these scouts know what they are doing and there are no secrets in the NFL...they can spot injuries from a mile away when you watch what a guy does every play of his career. EDIT: have you also noticed how he is throwing more side-arm this year? I'm telling you, if he says anything when our season ends (prolly in 2 weeks the way they are playing now) it will be about that throwing shoulder.

Actually, I didn't put in this line before the above paragraphs, from the same article:

Most concerning is that it's his throwing shoulder that landed him on the injury report.

So, now, coming from the Packers, the shoulder is banged/nicked up.

[Mizzou24]

Quote: Originally Posted by SECElit3

Cam Newton stats today: 17/34 with less than 150 passing... What is he rated again in Madden? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

While I agree he's overrated. You're overreacting to one game. Which is already the problem we have with how the ratings are handled now.

In cams defense he has played a heck of a season and led his lack luster offense to a 14-1 season.. Even if it was a very very weak schedule.

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[Gman 18]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mizzou24

While I agree he's overrated. You're overreacting to one game. Which is already the problem we have with how the ratings are handled now. In cams defense he has played a heck of a season and led his lack luster offense to a 14-1 season.. Even if it was a very very weak schedule. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

One game doesn't define a player and that is never how ratings should be defined in a sports game. Of course, it is ridiculous when a player comes out of nowhere and has ONE good game and goes up 5-10 points and then pretty much falls off after that and still remains in the same attributes range.

A big problem with madden's rating system over the years was the extremely overrated free agents. Players who haven't played in a couple of years and hadn't even made it past training camp with some teams somehow rated like top guys at their specific position is what im talking about. This doesn't seem to be as big of an issue as it once was, I would say 5-10 years back, but it still remains an issue. I really feel like madden has always had a hard time representing a player going through a decline realistically, as his current attributes reflect those at a time when he was at the top of his game

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