MLB The Show 16 Trailer, Josh Donaldson is the Cover Athlete - Ships 3.29.16

[JODYE]

Quote: Originally Posted by PsychoBulk

I've got to be honest Nem (and you know me, i've been on here years), anemic is exactly the type of word i'd use to describe this franchise at the moment. Anemic, stale, stagnant, faded - call it what you will. I'm not judging '16 by this one video of course not, im more talking about the general way the series has gone the last few years. I truly believe you could play any of the games from 2013, '14 and '15 and be hard pressed to convince a naysayer they really were different games. Great games yes, but, like i said, stale, etc. Ill keep my hopes up for something a little fresher as the information about '16 starts to come out but as i said previously, my enthusiasm for this games release used to be rampant yearly, now its merely more than a passing interest and that's a great shame.

:Appl:

It is the same cycle every year.

First video gets posted. You have your group that rips it to shreds saying the game is broken and unplayable because shoe laces aren't right, then the far right are the apologists that always come in and rip people for complaining and use the terms "tip of the iceberg" or "wait for more information" etc etc.

When are people going to start calling a spade a spade here?

Don't get me wrong, fundamentally the Show is a great game, but let us not kid ourselves, the Show has been a great game for years now and it has remained relatively unchanged during that period of time. Sure there have been marginal additions and tweaks to physics and such. Some mode additions that garnered minimal play from the community etc. But here we are, another video, and yet another year where it appears that aesthetically, this game will take one more step towards putrid.

I literally watched that video in HD, thinking it was PS3. The player models are still a tweak from a modeling system that was introduced somewhere in 2009-2010, almost a whole console ago. A great lighting system only further reiterates the need for a complete graphical overhaul. The animation system couldn't be more dated. Players move like robots and interact with the ground like it doesn't even exist. Throwing and pitching animations still look awkward and unnatural. Warp speed reactions in both the infield and outfield like physics don't exist.

Not to mention I still hear commentary that I heard 7 years ago.

I haven't bought this game in 3 years. I have rented just to see if it was worthy of a purchase, but as PsychoBulk said, I don't get excited for this game anymore. And this is coming from a guy who pre-ordered every year and would be at GameStop release day morning to pick it up.

[aguero90]

Some say lack of another baseball game to push the show hurts, and maybe it does. Others, like me, want fresh commentary, especially pbp. They know all this already, it just takes time. It's not going to happen over night. Heck, I called MLBN and left a message for Matty V basically calling him out, saying we need tv Matt in the show. I figured it can't hurt!

[ryanmc564]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

Your actually completely wrong in your assumptions.

Yes complaining doesn't change anything, we know, it only drives you and the CD guys here nuts. But i must ask, what does it take to get things addressed that get brought up every year like new player models? pretty sure new camera angles are mention far less, but yet that's something you guys are willing to address with really no direction or idea on what kind of camera angles to use (granted I'm sure that's something that can be done more easily than other request), but hell closed roofs have been a complaint for at least a decade and that's supposedly might happen this year. if we ask politely does that help?


Hey SCEA can we please get new player models or at the very least more body types? pretty please with sugar on top. it will only end so much of the complaints on this forum.

[tnixen]

Quote: Originally Posted by PsychoBulk

I've got to be honest Nem (and you know me, i've been on here years), anemic is exactly the type of word i'd use to describe this franchise at the moment. Anemic, stale, stagnant, faded - call it what you will. I'm not judging '16 by this one video of course not, im more talking about the general way the series has gone the last few years. I truly believe you could play any of the games from 2013, '14 and '15 and be hard pressed to convince a naysayer they really were different games. Great games yes, but, like i said, stale, etc. Ill keep my hopes up for something a little fresher as the information about '16 starts to come out but as i said previously, my enthusiasm for this games release used to be rampant yearly, now its merely more than a passing interest and that's a great shame.

The Rumored addition of MLB Network would definitely take some of the staleness away I bet if done right of course

[Armor and Sword]

I have to slightly disagree with Psycho on one point.

The difference between 13 and 15 as far as gameplay for me was dramatic.

Hitting was far better. Directional hitting was long overdue.

Ball physics were on another level. The variety of hits was the best yet.

Fielder speed, base runner speed was far more refined. The new speed paradigm was a success and can only get better.

Manual Fielding - something I never did on 11,12,13,14 was fun on 15 (I still went back to my auto field manual throw). It was not nearly as clunky as in the past. Ratings really mattered overall in regards to fielding this year.

Ball spins in regards to pitching was on a new level of realism. really impressive.

Pitcher AI was better IMO. Ace's felt like aces. 5th starters felt like 5th starters (on average).

Hitting AI was much better. I am able to set up hitter and get them chasing pitches out of the zone. Many more swings and misses on 15 then ever before. Awesome to throw some high country heat and get them swinging and missing for strike 3. Or a nasty back door slider locking them up. Or a almost in the dirt curve being whiffed on. That never really happened for me on previous games.

They enhanced the sliders to include both infield and outfield sliders which to me made a huge difference in realism and getting a sweet spot with auto fielding.

Anyway just my thoughts. I felt MLB 15 was easily the best one to date and by a pretty wide margin when it came to core game play on the field. It was truly the first next gen Show title. I felt 14 was more of a port (flame away but that's is how it felt all the way through save for stadiums).

I agree on many other points in regards primarily to presentation, player models etc. I hope they really ramp up to NBA2K like presentation. it is so freaking great.

Also keep adding to an already deep franchise mode. And of course we all want true historical stat tracking, rosters being able to be carried over stand alone (vs through franchise/season files).

I am sure we will get a lot of big game improvements for 16. I also expect presentation to be ramped up. I agree about MLB 15. The play by play was far too repetitive. I heard the same lines every game 12 games into a season. That should not be happening anymore.

[Bunselpower32]

Hm, tapatalk didn't quote the body of text. Just insert psycho bulks stuff here.

Could not have said it better. I was hoping that with the price drop on new consoles, they would be ok to push it to ps4 only and maybe that would invoke an overhaul. But then I saw that, once again, they're releasing another one for ps3. I got into the cycle pretty early this generation, so I'm expecting a better roi than my ps3 (which I picked up like two years before the ps4 was announced), but man, if it's just a reskinned ps3 game then I don't know if I can handle that.

I have to admit though, if they announced gesture pitching, I would go out today and order this bad boy. Maybe with that slow motion thing they'll take some more cues from the mlb 2k series and include some more of what made that game so dang fun to play (alternate position ratings, gesture pitching, batters eye).

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[Artman22]

Quote: Originally Posted by nemesis04

They are valid points PsychoBulk. The developers are aware of the staleness concerns people have. I know people want change quicker than it is happening but I get the feeling things are being addressed. It won't be turn on a dime change though.

I think if they change the game's commentators it would be a huge start in getting rid of some of the stale feelings. This game is way over due for new commentators and it hasn't happened. I think they should start there just to bring something different to the franchise. I know myself. I'm a hardcore baseball fan and I love being in leagues so I always buy this game, but we can't deny that some things need changing at this point.


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[The Kid 24]

Quote: Originally Posted by tnixen

The Rumored addition of MLB Network would definitely take some of the staleness away I bet if done right of course

Where did you see this?