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RaychelSnr · 10-28-2015, 04:16 PM

After last year's game inexplicably omitted the ability to simulate to your next shift, NHL 16 at least brought that feature back from last gen's Be A Pro mode. But EA Canada still has not improved the series' annoyingly long loading times between shifts. You can expect to waste 10 seconds staring at a black screen every time you step off the ice, which adds up to about 3.5 minutes of in-match loading per game if your coach is giving you 20 shifts a night. I don't understand how a game like NBA 2K16 can get my character out of his seat and onto the court in only a second or two, while EA Canada's hockey title continues to trip over the same technical hurdle.

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Clarke99 · 10-28-2015, 06:23 PM

No game is perfect but this game just gets ripped on here hardcore it's actually pretty good, just saying

JP7555 · 10-29-2015, 01:06 AM

These points are all very valid. I'm in my 2nd CHL season and leading the league in goals and overall points. I play roughly 30 games a season and sim the rest. I'm being told by a potential agent I'm being lazy (not playing enough) and that I might not be drafted. Again, I'm leading the league in goals and points.

As for game play, the article is right. If you want to score, you have to mostly take it upon yourself.

The AI of your teammates on defense is just short of being totally inept. The AI of the opponent isn't much better.

Off the ice stuff, like any kind of story line, to the way attributes are improved on, just needs to be re-done totally. It's not very good, period.

Hopefully some of this is addressed this year, like the game play stuff and how/if you're drafted and evaluated. Currently, it's basically broken.

I probably won't play the mode any longer............. which is too bad, because I like that kind of mode.

ChiTownBluesFan · 10-30-2015, 01:36 PM

I really don't have a problem with the gameplay itself - my teammates score plenty often (although this is at the NHL level). The biggest problem is the in-game stuff related to attributes. From having absolutely *no* idea what improves 'team play', to having a weird penalty called on you in a blowout that reduces y 'team play' score by 25% (really? I've gone from a B+ to C because of a penalty in the last 5 minutes in a game we're winning by 6?), to losing 25% of my 'defense' score because while boxing out an opposing player, the goalie has a shot hit him right in the glove that still falls in, but somehow I get dinged for 'bad line play'. Getting knocked down once in a game means a negative score for attributes. As an offensive D-man, I can't body check for crap - even with hitting assistance turned all the way up - so the physical attributes never go up. Ugh. And, you can't turn off coach assistance on training once it's on, so you can't concentrate on the stuff the game stupidly dings you on.

The gameplay is great as far as I'm concerned. But this attribute stuff needs to be fixed. Even NHL14/15 on the 360 was better with this stuff.

SevenTwentyNine · 10-31-2015, 12:57 AM

What drives me nuts is all the minus' you take from playing. Between the goalie and defense blocking my shots, my slap shot accuracy to a -280 hit. Nothing is really explained either. What raises poise for the love of god? Or aggression? Also, if you're slow then your speed will take forever to raise to decent levels, same with strength. I've noticed by messing around, that you get the same amount of points whether you shoot 3 goals or 6, like there's a cap on the amount you can get per game. The sleepwalking defense and automatic goals against are aggravating.

AdamJones113 · 10-31-2015, 08:48 PM

Yep. Gameplay once again is the key thing, because in a mode so barebones as this is, where the only thing to do is play games, that's the key feature.

Whether or not you like the gameplay or not, there needs to be some incentive for me to play this mode. Currently there is no such incentive. I won't deign to suggest anything at this moment—I'm sure heavier BAP players have better ideas than I do—but the incentive, not just stale gameplay, is what's needed to get me into this mode.

BAP is essentially BAGM, with player lock on and fewer options.

schlitz73 · 11-05-2015, 02:48 AM

A lot of very valid points.

You forgot to mention the stat bugs where goalies wins and losses are not counted correctly. Some people seem to think that is tied to shutouts but it's not. I have only one game left in my regular season and only managed about 5-6 shutouts and less than 10 overtime games yet my goalies have a combined win-loss record totaling only about 35 games. Roughly half don't get counted.

The coaching suggestions are also messed up. I play as RW and have had the suggestion to get faceoff tie-ups stuck there for the last 6 games. I can only take a faceoff when the game goes to OT so I'm stuck with that suggestion for ages apparently since I can't even figure out how to do a tie up and win.

Let's also not forget the your AI defensemen being incapable of starting a breakout. They pass the puck backward or circle back too much, often pinning themselves against the boards or running into your own net. The amount of turnovers here is staggering.

Calling for passes isn't great either. Your teammates often pause a bit before passing so the open lane closes and you get a bad call for pass. And why have the block shot feature if you are going to get called for tripping 50% of the time when you try to lay down to block a shot. Watch those replays when it happens and it's usually your own guy getting tripped up first yet YOU get the penalty.

BaP classic mode is bugged so you always get called for long shifts, it changes to authentic randomly and won't let you switch back, you can't play the prospects game or at least I didn't get selected to it despite leading the league in nearly every category...

Basically, every mode in this game has major issues. I can tell you right now I will NOT be buying NHL 17. I'm amazed and disgusted that they could release such a buggy version of this game. I knew better than to buy it at release yet I did it anyway and this is what we get. It's shameful.

SevenTwentyNine · 11-05-2015, 06:09 PM

One thing that is driving me nuts is the the hits you take to your Discipline. God forbid you should commit a penalty because the minus to your rating are gargantuan. Especially in comparison to the fact that you get no bonus to your Discipline when you don't commit penalty, unless you don't commit one for two games and even then it's so small that it would take several games of committing no penalties just to off-set it. There's no way to lower penalties or simply turn it off and getting a penalty is extremely easy. I got one for simply passing gas by a defender. The after-effect to all this is that you get to watch your rating plummet like an unflushable tvrd down a broken toilet. I hate Be A Pro this year and I'm struggling through it. It's the only mode I play and this is the last time I buy this game for a long-long time regardless of what's promised and sure to be not delivered. Nothing like having no choices.

10-28-2015, 04:16 PM	#1
RaychelSnr Executive Editor OVR: 57 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,846 Blog Entries: 490	NHL 16: Be A Pro Mode's Biggest Problems After last year's game inexplicably omitted the ability to simulate to your next shift, NHL 16 at least brought that feature back from last gen's Be A Pro mode. But EA Canada still has not improved the series' annoyingly long loading times between shifts. You can expect to waste 10 seconds staring at a black screen every time you step off the ice, which adds up to about 3.5 minutes of in-match loading per game if your coach is giving you 20 shifts a night. I don't understand how a game like NBA 2K16 can get my character out of his seat and onto the court in only a second or two, while EA Canada's hockey title continues to trip over the same technical hurdle. Read More - NHL 16: Be A Pro Mode's Biggest Problems Platform: PS4 / Xbox One DylPickle23 likes this.

10-28-2015, 06:23 PM	#2
Clarke99 Banned OVR: 0 Join Date: Feb 2012	No game is perfect but this game just gets ripped on here hardcore it's actually pretty good, just saying Freakywwe likes this.

10-30-2015, 01:36 PM	#4
ChiTownBluesFan Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Mar 2012	Re: NHL 16: Be A Pro Mode's Biggest Problems I really don't have a problem with the gameplay itself - my teammates score plenty often (although this is at the NHL level). The biggest problem is the in-game stuff related to attributes. From having absolutely no idea what improves 'team play', to having a weird penalty called on you in a blowout that reduces y 'team play' score by 25% (really? I've gone from a B+ to C because of a penalty in the last 5 minutes in a game we're winning by 6?), to losing 25% of my 'defense' score because while boxing out an opposing player, the goalie has a shot hit him right in the glove that still falls in, but somehow I get dinged for 'bad line play'. Getting knocked down once in a game means a negative score for attributes. As an offensive D-man, I can't body check for crap - even with hitting assistance turned all the way up - so the physical attributes never go up. Ugh. And, you can't turn off coach assistance on training once it's on, so you can't concentrate on the stuff the game stupidly dings you on. The gameplay is great as far as I'm concerned. But this attribute stuff needs to be fixed. Even NHL14/15 on the 360 was better with this stuff. calegarrison22 likes this.

10-31-2015, 12:57 AM	#5
SevenTwentyNine Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA	Re: NHL 16: Be A Pro Mode's Biggest Problems What drives me nuts is all the minus' you take from playing. Between the goalie and defense blocking my shots, my slap shot accuracy to a -280 hit. Nothing is really explained either. What raises poise for the love of god? Or aggression? Also, if you're slow then your speed will take forever to raise to decent levels, same with strength. I've noticed by messing around, that you get the same amount of points whether you shoot 3 goals or 6, like there's a cap on the amount you can get per game. The sleepwalking defense and automatic goals against are aggravating. calegarrison22 likes this.

10-31-2015, 08:48 PM	#6
AdamJones113 #AyJay OVR: 2 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,767 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NHL 16: Be A Pro Mode's Biggest Problems Yep. Gameplay once again is the key thing, because in a mode so barebones as this is, where the only thing to do is play games, that's the key feature. Whether or not you like the gameplay or not, there needs to be some incentive for me to play this mode. Currently there is no such incentive. I won't deign to suggest anything at this moment—I'm sure heavier BAP players have better ideas than I do—but the incentive, not just stale gameplay, is what's needed to get me into this mode. BAP is essentially BAGM, with player lock on and fewer options. calegarrison22 and Money99 like this. __________________ Tweet OS Articles (NBA 2k League) SimWorld NBA: The Chronicle Go NY Giants!

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10-29-2015, 01:06 AM	#3
JP7555 Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Dec 2010	These points are all very valid. I'm in my 2nd CHL season and leading the league in goals and overall points. I play roughly 30 games a season and sim the rest. I'm being told by a potential agent I'm being lazy (not playing enough) and that I might not be drafted. Again, I'm leading the league in goals and points. As for game play, the article is right. If you want to score, you have to mostly take it upon yourself. The AI of your teammates on defense is just short of being totally inept. The AI of the opponent isn't much better. Off the ice stuff, like any kind of story line, to the way attributes are improved on, just needs to be re-done totally. It's not very good, period. Hopefully some of this is addressed this year, like the game play stuff and how/if you're drafted and evaluated. Currently, it's basically broken. I probably won't play the mode any longer............. which is too bad, because I like that kind of mode.

11-05-2015, 02:48 AM	#7
schlitz73 Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Mar 2014	Re: NHL 16: Be A Pro Mode's Biggest Problems A lot of very valid points. You forgot to mention the stat bugs where goalies wins and losses are not counted correctly. Some people seem to think that is tied to shutouts but it's not. I have only one game left in my regular season and only managed about 5-6 shutouts and less than 10 overtime games yet my goalies have a combined win-loss record totaling only about 35 games. Roughly half don't get counted. The coaching suggestions are also messed up. I play as RW and have had the suggestion to get faceoff tie-ups stuck there for the last 6 games. I can only take a faceoff when the game goes to OT so I'm stuck with that suggestion for ages apparently since I can't even figure out how to do a tie up and win. Let's also not forget the your AI defensemen being incapable of starting a breakout. They pass the puck backward or circle back too much, often pinning themselves against the boards or running into your own net. The amount of turnovers here is staggering. Calling for passes isn't great either. Your teammates often pause a bit before passing so the open lane closes and you get a bad call for pass. And why have the block shot feature if you are going to get called for tripping 50% of the time when you try to lay down to block a shot. Watch those replays when it happens and it's usually your own guy getting tripped up first yet YOU get the penalty. BaP classic mode is bugged so you always get called for long shifts, it changes to authentic randomly and won't let you switch back, you can't play the prospects game or at least I didn't get selected to it despite leading the league in nearly every category... Basically, every mode in this game has major issues. I can tell you right now I will NOT be buying NHL 17. I'm amazed and disgusted that they could release such a buggy version of this game. I knew better than to buy it at release yet I did it anyway and this is what we get. It's shameful. calegarrison22 and bingyp like this.

11-05-2015, 06:09 PM	#8
SevenTwentyNine Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA	Re: NHL 16: Be A Pro Mode's Biggest Problems One thing that is driving me nuts is the the hits you take to your Discipline. God forbid you should commit a penalty because the minus to your rating are gargantuan. Especially in comparison to the fact that you get no bonus to your Discipline when you don't commit penalty, unless you don't commit one for two games and even then it's so small that it would take several games of committing no penalties just to off-set it. There's no way to lower penalties or simply turn it off and getting a penalty is extremely easy. I got one for simply passing gas by a defender. The after-effect to all this is that you get to watch your rating plummet like an unflushable tvrd down a broken toilet. I hate Be A Pro this year and I'm struggling through it. It's the only mode I play and this is the last time I buy this game for a long-long time regardless of what's promised and sure to be not delivered. Nothing like having no choices.