PES 2016 Update Coming Thursday, Adds Transfers, New Faces, Kits & Gameplay Tweaks

[Ettnollbajen]

Quote: Originally Posted by DBMcGee3

I like both games quite a bit actually. FIFA plays a bit more realistically in regards to pace and scoring, but it's just not always as smooth or fun as PES. My biggest FIFA gripe is that there's such a huge leap between difficulty levels. Seems crazy to me that I win every game on pro by 3 or 4 goals and lose every game on World Class by 3 or 4 goals. I hate online play and FUT, so I just want a reasonable CPU difficulty that doesn't leave me messing with sliders constantly. PES is great for offline play because the teams play more like themselves and I don't feel cheated so often on goals by the CPU. But again, when I'm seeing 5 or 6 goals in 15 minutes, it just doesn't feel much like a simulation to me, but rather a drag race.

I enjoyed FIFA 15,my last Pes game before going to FIFA were 2013.
But after having a few seasons on FIFA 15,I felt nothing playing it.
Think the ai were horrible,and being an offline guy,the player career mode crap.
Actually tried to play it the other day.
Absolute crap,after playing Pes 2016 for a month.
But FIFA 16 is a bit different?
Slower and being able to defend,which was horrible in 15,especially if you played tactical def.
But I'm gonna give it a go.
Switching to ps4 in a few days,and it's included there.
My main concern playing Pes right now (played it on PC before) is the lack of stadiums.
If Konami doesn't wanna create more stadiums,why not go back to stadium creator,or being able to import.

[DBMcGee3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ettnollbajen

I enjoyed FIFA 15,my last Pes game before going to FIFA were 2013. But after having a few seasons on FIFA 15,I felt nothing playing it. Think the ai were horrible,and being an offline guy,the player career mode crap. Actually tried to play it the other day. Absolute crap,after playing Pes 2016 for a month. But FIFA 16 is a bit different? Slower and being able to defend,which was horrible in 15,especially if you played tactical def. But I'm gonna give it a go. Switching to ps4 in a few days,and it's included there. My main concern playing Pes right now (played it on PC before) is the lack of stadiums. If Konami doesn't wanna create more stadiums,why not go back to stadium creator,or being able to import.

Yeah, FIFA 16 is a marked improvement from 15 in my opinion. The weight and pace of the players is more realistic, the CPU passes a lot more, including lobs and plays back to the GK, and the defensive AI has been improved as well, although both games still have room for improvement in that area. I find the physical side of FIFA to be more impressive than PES as well. The fouls feel right for the most part, although sometimes they can seem ticky tack in the box, and you actually see red and yellow cards frequently.

I love having both games. I play one for a few weeks and then switch over, and because they're so different from one another I don't really get tired of either that way.

[tzinc]

I made the move to PES this year.
Problems with FIFA
1) you don't really play defense
2) pre-set patterns to success
3) all teams and players are the same
4) very hard to win even at the lowest levels and online compared to previous years I like to have an easy time then build up difficulty as I go
5) out of 100s of packs maybe 1000s I have opened over the years NOT once did I get a top rated player ever lol plus all the fiddling they did to FUT ugh - warming up to myclub it is different but more fun in some ways
6) grinding tedium not very much like football at all - same things over and over pass back to GK he kicks it out yawn

Yes PES has issues but you can make the transfers yourself right? You can import the missing stuff no? (Just missing a stadium importer/creator.)

I will take PES and it's issues over FIFA this year's version was literally unplayable for me. For me it is GAMEPLAY that counts most.

[wkhalil]

Quote: Originally Posted by tzinc

I made the move to PES this year. Problems with FIFA 1) you don't really play defense 2) pre-set patterns to success 3) all teams and players are the same 4) very hard to win even at the lowest levels and online compared to previous years I like to have an easy time then build up difficulty as I go 5) out of 100s of packs maybe 1000s I have opened over the years NOT once did I get a top rated player ever lol plus all the fiddling they did to FUT ugh - warming up to myclub it is different but more fun in some ways 6) grinding tedium not very much like football at all - same things over and over pass back to GK he kicks it out yawn Yes PES has issues but you can make the transfers yourself right? You can import the missing stuff no? (Just missing a stadium importer/creator.) I will take PES and it's issues over FIFA this year's version was literally unplayable for me. For me it is GAMEPLAY that counts most.

Agree, PES has issues but to me it is a very good game at the core.

[Drag66]

Quote: Originally Posted by DBMcGee3

My biggest FIFA gripe is that there's such a huge leap between difficulty levels. Seems crazy to me that I win every game on pro by 3 or 4 goals and lose every game on World Class by 3 or 4 goals. I hate online play and FUT, so I just want a reasonable CPU difficulty that doesn't leave me messing with sliders constantly.

I've always been a huge fan of PES, but I really like FIFA 16 this year too. But you have hit the nail on the head. There is too much of a difficulty gap between Pro and World Class in FIFA 16. Pro is far too easy and World Class is a bit too tough (I simply cant score much at all). This has caused me to stop playing FIFA 16 for a awhile and soley play PES. I simply can't find a happy medium with sliders (and I hate messing with sliders anyway). PES's Professional level is perfect for me as I have terrific game variety.

[El Niche]

So they didnt address the fouls? Keepers a better in the patch? variety of shots from the AI?

Drag66, I found FIFA's Top PLayer to be terrible, I was scared to move it up to Legendary and I did, the difficulty is not impossible and its a bit better to play. Event ho you said you dont like sliders, check out the community ones here at OS. Tweak them to your advantage until you find a sweet spot.

[buckeyezombie]

My keeper has definitely improved. He made 2 saves that they never would have saved before.

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[DBMcGee3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Drag66

I've always been a huge fan of PES, but I really like FIFA 16 this year too. But you have hit the nail on the head. There is too much of a difficulty gap between Pro and World Class in FIFA 16. Pro is far too easy and World Class is a bit too tough (I simply cant score much at all). This has caused me to stop playing FIFA 16 for a awhile and soley play PES. I simply can't find a happy medium with sliders (and I hate messing with sliders anyway). PES's Professional level is perfect for me as I have terrific game variety.

Sounds like we're in about the same place with both games. I can score against World Class, but I can't keep them from banging in volleys from everywhere, and like you, I HATE messing with sliders because I don't find the game as rewarding if I know that I've handicapped the CPU.

PES has too much scoring, but at least I win some games and lose some (on Professional), and never really feel like the CPU stole a goal or a game from me.

Ideally I'd like more time to practice and get better, so that the higher difficulties aren't so frustrating, but I'm lucky to get in a few hours a week with my PS4. Getting old sucks.