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[THESHAMISASHAME]

Quote: Originally Posted by speels

I am getting tired of 3 things. 1) Going into the a battle along the boards and never coming out with the puck against the CPU. 2) Having the CUP skate through all five defenders with even bobbling the puck, but when I try to go through 1 guy he always ends up with the puck. 3) When I poke check the CPU the puck is loose and anyone can retrieve it, although the CPU recovers it 99% of the time. Then when the CPU poke checks the puck off my stick it is never loose as it always sticks right to their stick for a quick pass outside the zone.

I play hybrid and if I play default Allstar I rarely win those battles regardless of players skills so I dropped to pro level for a while and the battles on the boards were more fair .
I really miss how this game played originally out of the box that was so organic and less boost as it just comes off robotic on higher levels were it seems attributes mean little so I find making Pro level tougher a better option .

[Vikes1]

Quote: Originally Posted by speels

I am getting tired of 3 things. 1) Going into the a battle along the boards and never coming out with the puck against the CPU. 2) Having the CUP skate through all five defenders with even bobbling the puck, but when I try to go through 1 guy he always ends up with the puck. 3) When I poke check the CPU the puck is loose and anyone can retrieve it, although the CPU recovers it 99% of the time. Then when the CPU poke checks the puck off my stick it is never loose as it always sticks right to their stick for a quick pass outside the zone.

Yes,yes and yes. Playing vs the cpu just feels so.....well, robotic. That one early tuner seemed to take the robotic feel away. But the last one brought it back, imo.

[jake19ny]

Quote: Originally Posted by THESHAMISASHAME

I play hybrid and if I play default Allstar I rarely win those battles regardless of players skills so I dropped to pro level for a while and the battles on the boards were more fair . I really miss how this game played originally out of the box that was so organic and less boost as it just comes off robotic on higher levels were it seems attributes mean little so I find making Pro level tougher a better option .

Fortunately I'm back to out of the box tuner and may be able to salvage a season after all. Sham check out my thread on my idea to get the good tuner back. Hopefully someone steps forward.

Though I'm enjoying the game with default tuner I'm constantly reminded of just how little EA cares about the offline gamer. Some examples:

The latest tuner for starters.
No season stats showing for players in game, two years now.
Failure to address goal celebration.
Failure to address the same AI issues that have been there for years.
Play by play name list not updated for YEARS.
Poor roster updates with missing players, pictures, and wrong data.
Very few goalie mask changes for years.
Failure to patch in the latest goalie gear.
Failure to address roster edit crashing.
Failure to incorporate a simple roster share.
Doc and Eddie say things that just are not happening in the game, lazy.
Second year in a row, slider bug where change something in General move to the other categories like Checking and AI, go back to General and things have changed by themselves.....

This list is incomplete for sure. Some things may seem trivial but they are all things most online players and HUT lovers care very little about. So frustrating.

[shogunofharlem3]

Just played a great game on Pro with the new tuner. I had a thought. When the AI locks on to you they never ever miss a check, and when you go to hit them at times they have that invisible wall around them.

SO, I put hitting assistance all the way up. I was able to stand them up and force them to dump the puck at the blue line a lot. And with hitting power down at 0 or 1 bodies aren't laying all over the ice.

The AI has that type of assistance, why shouldn't we? And what I saw with board battles, if you wanted to bump you had to hold the right stick and that would actually loosen the puck.

Going to play another one in a minute. But that seemed to help with their side stepping and their lack of dump. Because now they know we gonna get them with that much assistance. So they get rid of the puck. Give it a whirl.

[speels]

Quote: Originally Posted by shogunofharlem3

Just played a great game on Pro with the new tuner. I had a thought. When the AI locks on to you they never ever miss a check, and when you go to hit them at times they have that invisible wall around them. SO, I put hitting assistance all the way up. I was able to stand them up and force them to dump the puck at the blue line a lot. And with hitting power down at 0 or 1 bodies aren't laying all over the ice. The AI has that type of assistance, why shouldn't we? And what I saw with board battles, if you wanted to bump you had to hold the right stick and that would actually loosen the puck. Going to play another one in a minute. But that seemed to help with their side stepping and their lack of dump. Because now they know we gonna get them with that much assistance. So they get rid of the puck. Give it a whirl.

Interesting. I am beginning to feel that Pro is the best gameplay, but you still need a little help with sliders. I just played on All-star with TNK's sliders and played the most amazing defense I have ever played. I was CLB against the Kings, anyway, they scored 4 goals in the first period on 1 shot!!!! 1 bloody shot!!!!! 3 of their goals were scored when I would stick lift or poke check the puck and it would slide through my goalies legs, I was pissed!!!

Anyway, I ended the game losing 6-1 and they had 8 shots. It also seems like if you have shooting accuracy on 1 as a human I either hit the goalie in the crest or miss the net, even on wide open in the slot chances, but over the course of a game I can count on 1 hand the number of times the CPU misses the net.

I think that is the big issue, when I aim all the way to the right, that makes the shot go outside the net, however the CPU never "over aims". the same thing with passing, they always seem to aim exactly where their player is, but if I am off by even 2 degrees my guys can't even get close to the pass.

One last thing, the human teammates are dumb, we all know that, but what I think the problem is is that the human CPU always wants their guys to be in the correct position, so when I take them out and release control, they immediately try to get them back to where it thinks they should be, all the time not actually paying any attention to what is actually happening on the ice.

The AI in this game is terrible, but at least your teammates should be as competent as the CPU players. The AI needs to be completely redone with more of a focus on what is going on and a little less on the Xs and Os. My players should look for the puck and not just play their "spot" on the ice.

I am taking a break from this game for a while, it's just so frustrating. In all honestly I am hoping for another patch or tuner just to change the crap that goes on with the ones we have now.

[shogunofharlem3]

Give pro a whirl. I use default skating speed. 6 / 5 acceleration for human / ai. Bump up checking assistance to 5 or 6. The 2 games I played were really fun. No ice tilt, no cheapies.

I also put goalie reaction at 5 / 5 or 6/6 and screen effect at 0/0 or 1/1. That will help you eliminate those rediculous goals the ai scores.

[DJ]

First game played in over 2 weeks (work travel) and you know, I had a very enjoyable experience. All-Star/Hardcore Simulation, 9-min. periods, no slider adjustments and the latest tuner update.

Avalanche (me) at Kings. Final: Colorado 3, Los Angeles 2 (OT). Shots were 42-40 in favor of the Kings. Avs had the advantage with possession of the puck in the offensive zone. Pass numbers were in the 70-80% range for both teams.

I've come to accept the legacy issues and just enjoy the game for what it is.

[robinson]

[quote=jake19ny;2047775203]Fortunately I'm back to out of the box tuner and may be able to salvage a season after all. Sham check out my thread on my idea to get the good tuner back. Hopefully someone steps forward.



When you say default tuner, do you mean tuner-1.00


We have deleted everything on the main ps4 page and reinstalled the game to use the 'out of box' settings (which is with no patchs). Still have the option of tuner 1.00 or 1.01 (which is latest).


If you go to my sliders thread or Northmans slider page its posted on doing this.


I just downloaded the roster update and it said it did a gameplay update (patchs). Just to verify are any tuners newer than 1.00 and 1.01