NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top 10 Players

[HowDareI]

I don't know what this argument's about lol....

Curry isn't a bad defender, but he's not great either. He's not average, but he's good.

We don't need all these crazy statistics all the time, he plays on a great defensive team and stepped up his individual d to help his team and win games. Is he Gary Payton? No...but he's not a bum either.

[ojandpizza]

That's OKC's play style to an extent though, it was under Brook's "style" at least. He wanted Westbrook gambling and wanting him trying to force turnovers. Often the reason that he would start a strong defensive minded player to play along side him rather than Harden/Reggie in the lineup.

Same for Curry, it's easier to play it safe, and do the little things when you aren't defending the elite scoring threat, and your defense is so solid 1-4 that you can basically count on those guys to have you back as well. Curry will never have to gamble, or even worry about blasting through and around every single screen so long as his 2-4 are the most versatile perimeter defense the league currently has. I don't question that he's a good team defender, or question his consistent effort at the defensive end, but their team philosophy and personnel enhance his ability to be respectable at that end. A solid team defender on a bad defensive team doesn't have much to offer, a solid team defender on an elite defensive team gives you what Curry was last season, in a nutshell.




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[cbpo]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

That's OKC's play style to an extent though, it was under Brook's "style" at least. He wanted Westbrook gambling and wanting him trying to force turnovers. Often the reason that he would start a strong defensive minded player to play along side him rather than Harden/Reggie in the lineup. Same for Curry, it's easier to play it safe, and do the little things when you aren't defending the elite scoring threat, and your defense is so solid 1-4 that you can basically count on those guys to have you back as well. Curry will never have to gamble, or even worry about blasting through and around every single screen so long as his 2-4 are the most versatile perimeter defense the league currently has. I don't question that he's a good team defender, or question his consistent effort at the defensive end, but their team philosophy and personnel enhance his ability to be respectable at that end. A solid team defender on a bad defensive team doesn't have much to offer, a solid team defender on an elite defensive team gives you what Curry was last season, in a nutshell. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's fair but I mean, if someone can force the turnovers and at the same time stay on their man that's still better. Even if it may be team philosophy some of westbrook's plays are inexcusable. I had no problem with him going for the strip in that situation but once the ball was passed back to the perimeter he literally didn't even care or try , he could've easily ran back to harden but just stayed under the basket lol. Those are the types of plays that can win or lose games.

[GisherJohn24]

I dind't read all the reactions yet, but I will. But I will say off the bat, Melo is no way near that rating and not top 10. Prolly top 15. He used to be top 10, maybe 2k11 or even 12 or 13, but not now. Perhaps 84 or 85 MAX. He hasn't been that great the last couple of years, still doesn't play defense at all. Poor in clutch lately, athletic, can still score, but a D. Lillard from Portland is a better player overall. I think Griffin is overrated. He can't shoot, average free throws. He reminds me of a Kevin Willis with more athleticism and strength. I don't think he's top 10 though.

[CMH]

Ugh. Really wish Melo could play with other All-Stars on his roster like he did just one season, so basketball fans can truly understand how talented he is.

Of course, the second that talented team makes it anywhere, Melo will just be the lucky guy that took a ride with the talents of others.

As if no other superstar has had that benefit. Or you know, failed like Chris Paul.

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by CMH

Ugh. Really wish Melo could play with other All-Stars on his roster like he did just one season, so basketball fans can truly understand how talented he is.

Melo literally played the last 9 years of his career next to some combination of

Allen Iverson
Chauncey Billups
Amare Stoudemire
Tyson Chandler

His playoff record over that time is 22-44, and his teams have never trumped 54 regular season wins.

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Of course, the second that talented team makes it anywhere, Melo will just be the lucky guy that took a ride with the talents of others.

You are right about that - if Melo "goes anywhere" it's because of the other players who won despite him. He does not play a winning style of basketball, not in the year 2015. He has had talented teams built around him for over a decade yet has minimal success to show for it.

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As if no other superstar has had that benefit. Or you know, failed like Chris Paul.

Paul (last 4 years): 19-25 playoffs
Melo (last 9 years): 22-44 playoffs

KK

[DC]

Watch your mouth with the CP3 slander Roster Boy!

[ojandpizza]

I don't care one way or another about the Melo debate.. But let's not even try to pretend like playing along side Iverson was supposed to make things better for him, or that he ever played with a healthy Amar'e, or that Tyson Chandler is a star who even impacted the rest of those garbage teams.

The majority of his Knicks squads haven't been all that talented, and the coaching has been just as bad or worse. Melo has shown that when he's in the right situations he can defend and share the ball too, we just haven't consistently seen that from him in a long time.


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