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[bigball12]

Here's what I can gather so far. I'm 8-1-0 and have only allowed 2 goals in 9 games online. Scoring is down a TON this year, period! The game plays a lot slower than years past.

Careful Passing is by far the most important aspect of the game. Turnovers seem to be rampant w the new passing system. The difficulty lies w the power not being as assisted as in the past.

One of the biggest and most blatant things I've noticed is that the speed threshold is TERRIBLY low! Speed doesn't kill at all, and it's a MAJOR bug. I'm talking 100% of the time on a dead sprint, the likes of

Walcott, Bale & Ronaldo getting chased down by ANY defender ALL of the time. It's clearly broken and needs to be fixed. Speed is totally neutralized in a terrible way (something that didn't happen in the demo)

This mainly effects co/op as well (which I played w a buddy. We went 5-1-0, and PLENTY of BS saves by the computer made it a nightmare in some games.

The defense has been cranked up to an ungodly level! It's out of hand how overpowering it is now. After reading impressions online, its common place now for 3 goals in a game to be a rarity. I haven't scored more than 3 in a game yet!

I'm so happy w the way the demo played, but the retail copy so far (which did get a patch update when I installed it, needs some work)

[Zac]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigball12

Here's what I can gather so far. I'm 8-1-0 and have only allowed 2 goals in 9 games online. Scoring is down a TON this year, period! The game plays a lot slower than years past. Careful Passing is by far the most important aspect of the game. Turnovers seem to be rampant w the new passing system. The difficulty lies w the power not being as assisted as in the past. One of the biggest and most blatant things I've noticed is that the speed threshold is TERRIBLY low! Speed doesn't kill at all, and it's a MAJOR bug. I'm talking 100% of the time on a dead sprint, the likes of Walcott, Bale & Ronaldo getting chased down by ANY defender ALL of the time. It's clearly broken and needs to be fixed. Speed is totally neutralized in a terrible way (something that didn't happen in the demo) This mainly effects co/op as well (which I played w a buddy. We went 5-1-0, and PLENTY of BS saves by the computer made it a nightmare in some games. The defense has been cranked up to an ungodly level! It's out of hand how overpowering it is now. After reading impressions online, its common place now for 3 goals in a game to be a rarity. I haven't scored more than 3 in a game yet! I'm so happy w the way the demo played, but the retail copy so far (which did get a patch update when I installed it, needs some work)

They can patch all they want for online, but this is perfect for offline MM. They better not touch any of this for us. Those things you have issues with is what we love about it.

[SpritePuck]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZO

They can patch all they want for online, but this is perfect for offline MM. They better not touch any of this for us. Those things you have issues with is what we love about it.

exactly!

If they patch the game offline gameplay wise, I will not install the patch and just play it completely offline. I would rather lose the online goodies and roster updates and keep this awesome gameplay.

The game is not bugged or broken. It just finally plays like real football and you can not simply outrun everyone.

[TX117]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigball12

Here's what I can gather so far. I'm 8-1-0 and have only allowed 2 goals in 9 games online. Scoring is down a TON this year, period! The game plays a lot slower than years past. Careful Passing is by far the most important aspect of the game. Turnovers seem to be rampant w the new passing system. The difficulty lies w the power not being as assisted as in the past. One of the biggest and most blatant things I've noticed is that the speed threshold is TERRIBLY low! Speed doesn't kill at all, and it's a MAJOR bug. I'm talking 100% of the time on a dead sprint, the likes of Walcott, Bale & Ronaldo getting chased down by ANY defender ALL of the time. It's clearly broken and needs to be fixed. Speed is totally neutralized in a terrible way (something that didn't happen in the demo) This mainly effects co/op as well (which I played w a buddy. We went 5-1-0, and PLENTY of BS saves by the computer made it a nightmare in some games. The defense has been cranked up to an ungodly level! It's out of hand how overpowering it is now. After reading impressions online, its common place now for 3 goals in a game to be a rarity. I haven't scored more than 3 in a game yet! I'm so happy w the way the demo played, but the retail copy so far (which did get a patch update when I installed it, needs some work)

It'll take time to get used to the slower pace but overall it's better this way. Hopefully it promotes more build up play but EA will probably change it within a month or 2.

[TX117]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpritePuck

exactly! If they patch the game offline gameplay wise, I will not install the patch and just play it completely offline. I would rather lose the online goodies and roster updates and keep this awesome gameplay. The game is not bugged or broken. It just finally plays like real football and you can not simply outrun everyone.

You can update rosters manually i think. Could be time consuming but it's an option.

[wordtobigbird]

I like that 3 goals are a rare in an online game. Unless the person is completely horrible at defense there is not reason for teams to consistently scoring that many goals if the game is realistic. I think it's similar to how Madden's average scores in online games has continually dropped as the game has gotten better and more sim. I know when I watch games on TV I rarely see three goals and when you do it's a complete mismatch/one team just playing like trash defensively.

[schnakenpopanz]

I have zero control over my passes. Tried it with full assistance, no help. Tons of turnovers, really frustrating. Will there be a day 1 patch or is the access version kind of an earlier built?

[redsox4evur]

Quote: Originally Posted by schnakenpopanz

I have zero control over my passes. Tried it with full assistance, no help. Tons of turnovers, really frustrating. Will there be a day 1 patch or is the access version kind of an earlier built?

The Access version is the retail version...