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[nunogomes]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpritePuck

I do not think EA plans to make the men play like the women. That would be awful. The women's mode is amazing because it is fun and life like. If they make the guys game like that it would be horribly unrealistic. I could be wrong it may be a test of new game styles. But I think it is just they made the women play like women and happened to succeed atthis better than they do in making the guys play like guys. Possibly this is because the women's game is simpler to impliment and recreate. Not a sexist remark, I am a girl.. But we do play a less complex, because of physical limitations, form of soccer and most other sports. They could probably make a more realistic women's basketball game than the two men's ones but that may be kinda not exciting to play.

Men football (or soccer) in a nutshell: not fun or life like!

Now serioulsy, i see your point, but i would love to see the women´s gameplay recreated on the men´s teams. It just feels better to play.

[stevostl]

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Possibly this is because the women's game is simpler to impliment and recreate.

I think it's more about the dev team who makes this game is located in Canada and all the women were right there in front of them this summer and they got to get up close and personal with them.. maybe using some of them for animations and etc. I dunno .. but to me this is why I think some of the women's faces are better and some of their animations are spot on.. and also because it's only a few teams as opposed to men's clubs and players..

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpritePuck

I do not think EA plans to make the men play like the women. That would be awful. The women's mode is amazing because it is fun and life like. If they make the guys game like that it would be horribly unrealistic. I could be wrong it may be a test of new game styles. But I think it is just they made the women play like women and happened to succeed atthis better than they do in making the guys play like guys. Possibly this is because the women's game is simpler to impliment and recreate. Not a sexist remark, I am a girl.. But we do play a less complex, because of physical limitations, form of soccer and most other sports. They could probably make a more realistic women's basketball game than the two men's ones but that may be kinda not exciting to play.

I think don't they need to have it like that women's but you can tell FIFA's dev team were able to put a good amount of details into player details that they just don't put in to many of the club teams and players. My thing is where do they go with the women's teams after this? Do they just add more national teams reflecting the 2015 World Cup or do they start adding club teams as well, I'm not going to lie playing as Arsenal Ladies team would be interesting.

[SpritePuck]

Quote: Originally Posted by RoyceDa59

I think don't they need to have it like that women's but you can tell FIFA's dev team were able to put a good amount of details into player details that they just don't put in to many of the club teams and players. My thing is where do they go with the women's teams after this? Do they just add more national teams reflecting the 2015 World Cup or do they start adding club teams as well, I'm not going to lie playing as Arsenal Ladies team would be interesting.

Totally agree, I would love women's English Football sides. I do think the more teams they add the less detail will get into it. Part of me feels it is so well done because they only had to do twelve teams. I am guessing on this.

I really hope they exand the women's teams and give a CM of some kind. Like you I love what they did with this and how it looks, feels and plays.

[TeleTex82]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpritePuck

You can speculate and speculate about what EA will do. Personally, I opted to call and sit on hold a while and ask. The answer I got was something to the likes of. "We are aware that some feel the players are too 'heavy' in the demo. However, this is due to a more realistic player physics. Currently there is no planned patch and the physics will remain as they are. The game at release will play mostly like the demo with a slight polish of player movement graphics not player control." If you doubt me call them yourself. Now, will this hold true? There is no way I can say but at least give them a chance. Personally my opinion is if you like PES play it... Why some feel compelled to explain why they choose the one over the other baffles me. Sure in a comparison review go for it. But a thread about FIFA demo and people start up... "Umm dude I am getting PES because the box it ships in just feels more like a football game box." Do not get me wrong everyone should play what they want and can share an opinion. I will most likely get both. If someone starts a comparison thread I aill gladly contribute to what both do well. And what both slightly miss at. The idea that FIFA is scripted and has no impact by what you do is just wrong. I always use a three person back and change to the same tactics. This greatly affects how the games are played out. I also sit back on defense and the CPU tries to bomb the ball in from the outside or or shoots long. My brother plays more as the team he is using and the CPU responds differently. The idea that PES plays like the real teams is false also. So, if PES is like the real side then I guess real football teams rarely cross the ball. Do not get me wrong I love PES but this claim is just warn out and not correct. The fact is this is like the Witcher 3 stuff about combat mechanics being "bad" compared to Bloodborne. The issue is they are way different. So, if you play a ton of one and then go to the other (I did this) then try to play it like the one you are used to (muscle memory) it is suddenly "broken". In fact they both rock and just are way different focus of strategy. Think of jumping from PES to FIFA or FIFA to PES in this same way. Rarely is anyone not more used to one than the other. When I switch over unless I custom controls I go to cross and send a missle shot at the side of the net. Muscle memory is a funny thing... I can tell myself "square square push square and bam I press circle". Ever watch a really good softball or baseball hitter who never plays golf swing a club? If you do get the chance notice how they no matter how much instruction recieved will at first push there wrists and hips so far forward that the meanest slice you ever saw occurs. Years and years of muscle memory can not be erased because one simply hears what to do differently. Exactly why a coach in all sports would rather get a good athlete who has never played than an athlete who was poorly coached and has bad habits. What does this have to do with FIFA? In my opinion everything. PES plays well. FIFA plays well. Yep, they are different. Both demos seem to show improvements over last years game. Guess what they are different games though and my bet is whichever one you "loved" last year will be the one you "love" this year. I refuse to bash one to build up the other. I will say from the demo FIFA feels like a solid game. The women's teams play better and more life like than any football game to date. Just my opinion. Will they completely change this next week before release? I doubt they could even if they wanted to but my impression if the IT guy I spoke with knows anything is they do not intend or want to. Okay done ranting... continue on, and anyone who wants PES do not take offense, I want the game also. Though do not see what PES does well meaning FIFA is a disgrace. If there is a review comparison thread, I will post why for the first time I could live with just one of the games but this is not really the place to go into which or why. My advice be happy both have demos, play both and pick which makes you the happiest. Or get both if money allows. EA showed passion and heart in football. This demo is full of the work of people who really care about the product they made. It shows and is a blast to play. Seriously done ranting... hope no one is offended, that was not my intent.

I can agree with a lot of what you're saying, but these games don't exist I a vacuum. Ea created this environment itself by attempting to muscle out competition with its monopolizing of licenses. It has been left with one competitior so comparisons to that one competitior will always be made. Just the way it is.

Fifa 15 became an exercise in futility when it came to making the computer play differently. Every team played the same after a certain point in the career. Didn't matter what you changed, every team played the same. Hence why custom tactics and sliders turned into such a long drawn out fiasco. After playing FIFA 16 for about 3+ hrs a day since the demo came out I can say that the teams pretty much all play the same this year too. Sure there are a few moments a game where the cpu will try a long shot or lob, but when it is down or drawn with the clock ticking every team resorts to the same tactics.

I've read you make the same comment about the lack of crosses in PES 2016 but I've seen quite a few. The computer has scored on me in so many different ways I can't remember two goals being quite the same. Juventus and Bayern are especially fond of the cross.

[nunogomes]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpritePuck

Totally agree, I would love women's English Football sides. I do think the more teams they add the less detail will get into it. Part of me feels it is so well done because they only had to do twelve teams. I am guessing on this. I really hope they exand the women's teams and give a CM of some kind. Like you I love what they did with this and how it looks, feels and plays.

Maybe, because there are just 12 teams, they really had the time to make the tactics welll done and the stats, maybe, i don´t know for sure obviously.

[SpritePuck]

Quote: Originally Posted by stevostl

I think it's more about the dev team who makes this game is located in Canada and all the women were right there in front of them this summer and they got to get up close and personal with them.. maybe using some of them for animations and etc. I dunno .. but to me this is why I think some of the women's faces are better and some of their animations are spot on.. and also because it's only a few teams as opposed to men's clubs and players..

Totally this... I think you are right. There is even vids of them working with players like Alex Morgan on movement and stuff. I was not thinking before but this makes more sense than what I stated. Since they worked with the players and the majority of them this shows. Would be hard to do with the thousands of men in the game.

[SpritePuck]

Quote: Originally Posted by TeleTex82

I can agree with a lot of what you're saying, but these games don't exist I a vacuum. Ea created this environment itself by attempting to muscle out competition with its monopolizing of licenses. It has been left with one competitior so comparisons to that one competitior will always be made. Just the way it is. Fifa 15 became an exercise in futility when it came to making the computer play differently. Every team played the same after a certain point in the career. Didn't matter what you changed, every team played the same. Hence why custom tactics and sliders turned into such a long drawn out fiasco. After playing FIFA 16 for about 3+ hrs a day since the demo came out I can say that the teams pretty much all play the same this year too. Sure there are a few moments a game where the cpu will try a long shot or lob, but when it is down or drawn with the clock ticking every team resorts to the same tactics. I've read you make the same comment about the lack of crosses in PES 2016 but I've seen quite a few. The computer has scored on me in so many different ways I can't remember two goals being quite the same. Juventus and Bayern are especially fond of the cross.

Totally honest and fair. I too saw in FIFA 15 a lack of diversity in CPU tactics. I also know that PES does cross the ball. Sometimes they do seem to pass a lot of ground balls in the box. In the end both have strong sides. I am greatful for both. One thing that affects me in switching between them is camera settings.

I will get both and time will see which I play more... If it had a CM mode for the women FIFA would be automatic winner as that part is simply amazing. I have more time in Germany vs USA than either of the men's demos. I actually have more time in that than I do some full games I own.