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Old 09-09-2015, 03:06 PM   #281
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I would disagree wholeheartedly with you on your #2 point. While before the veterans combine I would have agreed, watching the veterans combine proved some interesting insight to shelf life of regressing talent in the speed department. IE...Felix jones...ran a 4.3 low 40 in the draft. Ran a 4.7 or something this combine. That's significant in regression. AND...he trained for that event so I would clip another MS off that.

Felix also bulked up in his 3rd year to be an "every down back" you could already tell he lost some speed just from that. Then the 4.7 time was after he was out of the league a whole year.

He's also not on a team. Guys like him get cut.

So that's not the best example.


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I would disagree wholeheartedly with you on your #2 point. While before the veterans combine I would have agreed, watching the veterans combine proved some interesting insight to shelf life of regressing talent in the speed department. IE...Felix jones...ran a 4.3 low 40 in the draft. Ran a 4.7 or something this combine. That's significant in regression. AND...he trained for that event so I would clip another MS off that.
You cite one example - a guy who ran a 4.44 in 2008. NFLDS scouts had him at a 4.68 at the veterans combine in 2015. Throw in 8 years of separation at a position that sees the highest rate of regression. As I said in my statement, the AVERAGE for ALL PLAYERS (not just RBs with lengthy injury histories) is about a loss of 0.005 seconds for every season played.

How hard did he train? Where did he train? Was he down here at MJP or at another speed-oriented training facility? Was he overweight? Remember, when he ran in 2008, he was 207lbs. He is listed at 215 now on NFL.com. Is he even more now?

All we know for sure is that he was "training at home in Texas" prior to the event. We don't know where or with whom. Forgive me, but Jones never really seemed like a try-hard, effort-oriented kind of guy anyway, so I would not be surprised if he had a lackluster showing due to complacency. Remember, he failed the Cowboy conditioning test in 2012. If I was a betting man, I would be willing to bet that his lengthy injury history (both knees, ribs, foot, legs, and shoulders) combined with a sub-standard training regimen, and lack of effort, all likely contributed to that disappointing 40 time.

That being said, Jones is more of the exception than the rule here, and I have data to back that up. The falloff of these players over time is more correlated to injury history than to the number of years played.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:07 PM   #283
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I am misunderstanding what they are seeing. I thought they did not have the ability to negotiate.

They are just mad they won't resign at all. Oh...well I have had some resign....some who want to test.

I like that it is not a slam dunk like in years past. And that I have to compete in the off-season to get some back.

I like that.
None will resign until after the offseason. I would be fine if some would and some wouldn't because they want to test the waters. That would be realistic. For me, and others, none on the list will resign until the offseason.

*This isn't a deal breaker or game breaker for me, it is undesired though. And next season I won't be one of those who buys the game in the first week of release. I will give them time to patch it up and have a fully working product before I spend my money.
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None will resign until after the offseason. I would be fine if some would and some wouldn't because they want to test the waters. That would be realistic. For me, and others, none on the list will resign until the offseason.

*This isn't a deal breaker or game breaker for me, it is undesired though. And next season I won't be one of those who buys the game in the first week of release. I will give them time to patch it up and have a fully working product before I spend my money.
I am going to test this tonight. I have a test 32 team CFM going.

I will report back.
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Charter you know I have much respect for you. I am curious what are those 98 speed's accelerations? I have noticed that multiple bigger wide receivers have had accelerations in the 80s which is obviously much lower than those with higher speeds on the stock?

I have the video on my twitch channel. I'll have too look. Seemed to be 95 plus for acceleration. I'll look and see


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I have the video on my twitch channel. I'll have too look. Seemed to be 95 plus for acceleration. I'll look and see


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I simmed a season pre-patch Mariotta took a huge drop in overall. As I was looking through his attributes I saw his AWARENESS had dropped down to 4 in one season which was the number 1 cause of his overalls dropping so drastically. I just simmed a season and Mariotta dropped from 60-55 AWARENESS. Reloaded and simmed again and he dropped from 60-57, so seems that crazy regression issue was fixed.

I am really disappointed that they didnt fix the RESIGN issue. You still cannot resign your players until OFFSEASON and you have 1 chance to sign them.

The moral to the story is, this will be the last time I purchase Madden new. I will wait a month or so after release date and let them get all the bugs worked out before I bother. If they want to release unfinished products so they can meet deadlines, that is up to them, but I won't be one of those throwing money at them to do it.
You can resign during the season. Guys on last year of contract (like real life)

I'm playing as Vikings and at three different points during the season the CFM homepage had a section to resign certain players (Harrison Smith and Blanton)

I resigned them to realistic deals. I just think you can't Willy nilly resign whoever. They may have to be happy in scheme and approach the team about extension

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Old 09-09-2015, 03:21 PM   #288
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I'm at work right now and this is wonderful news, but just wondering if they fixed the stats issue when you start your CFM, the stats show on each player, but doesn't show the teams they played for.
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