NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

[Mauer4MVP]

I can't remember the last time I was this hyped for a sports game (maybe NFL 2k5 or MVP 2005). This is probably the wrong place to make this type of comment, but for me sports games are in general a tier below other types of video games such as RPG, RTS, FPS, etc. Games like Mass Effect and Halo have always gotten me much more excited than a sports game.

I think this 2k game may bridge the gap like few other sports games have. The biggest reason is I have Madden 16 and am actually enjoying the game quite a bit even with its' bugs. I would think I'd be more excited to play it, but after every Madden session I've had all I can think is, "That was fun, but man I can't wait for 2k." or "This should hold me over until 2k."

We obviously haven't seen the finished product or even played a game, but I just want to say thank you to the entire NBA 2k team. It sure looks like you brought it this year.

[Goffs]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkWilliam

DYING to see a snippet from broadcast cam with commentary etc. though...... TNT score bug at the bottom and all. HAHA!

This is what I'm waiting for....need to see the whole package. Fluid animations, different player body types, the crowds...hopefully with sound and no music overlaying the atmosphere..

[MarkWilliam]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

Not to mention this very thread is about a video where it's evident the lighting has been vastly improved. And yes, the court reflections were much too bright in 2K14. There's no disagree or not about it. They objectively just are, but judging by the latest video, I would like to see them turn up the reflections a bit more, especially at low angles (fresnel). We're getting so close. There's also one more thing that needs to be turned up to sell the illusion of arena lighting. The under light caused by the arena floor itself. There's likely a bit of it in 2K, but you can see how consistently the surfaces pointing down and facing the floor are brightened in photos and videos from nearly any camera angle. I would think this could be implemented as a simple ambient diffuse environment map or a reflectance map with mip mapped roughness levels. I bet one already exists so maybe it just needs adjusting, and the engine looks like it already has realtime ambient occlusion, so the map just needs to be multiplied by that so you don't get weird lighting in armpit cracks and such. If that was implemented or adjusted, it would add a subtle but powerful effect of feeling like the players are actually in the space of an arena with hardwood floors and arena lighting.

Yeah I thought 2K14 over glossed and the paint looked dominated by the lights. 2K15 went the other way and until we see broadcast cam, we don't know about this IMO.


But they now have paint scuffs everywhere from this trailer and it looks INSANE! Did they scan courts aswell now?


The paints being TOO perfectly clean in 2K15 always got a second glance from me..... no more in 2K16.


GLORY!

[UConcord11]

I guess i'll be the one to say that we basically just saw 90% animations folks. How are you even excited?

[FINCANEfan]

It saddens me that some will come up with some fugazy opinion hinting towards a dislike for the best sports game on the market. where were your fathers? haha!!!!

[Mauer4MVP]

Quote: Originally Posted by UConcord11

I guess i'll be the one to say that we basically just saw 90% animations folks. How are you even excited?

I guess I'll be the one to say it wasn't 90%. I didn't do the math either, but my guess is a lot safer.

Also, if done right (which 2k does), animations can be a really good thing. Especially in sports games. I feel more out of control in a game like live with fewer animations. At least with some animations implemented I can perform the moves and tasks I am trying to.

[BA2929]

Quote: Originally Posted by UConcord11

I guess i'll be the one to say that we basically just saw 90% animations folks. How are you even excited?

Well it IS an hype trailer. What did you want them to do, show us someone dribbling in place for 5 seconds in the middle of it?

[MarkWilliam]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP

I guess I'll be the one to say it wasn't 90%. I didn't do the math either, but my guess is a lot safer. Also, if done right (which 2k does), animations can be a really good thing. Especially in sports games. I feel more out of control in a game like live with fewer animations. At least with some animations implemented I can perform the moves and tasks I am trying to.

One thing I will say, in 2K15 when I bring the ball up I felt the animations took over at times. Felt clumsy (for lack of a better word). This is just when bringing the ball up the court I mean..... I just got reminded of this by Mauer's post and when I saw the PGs bringing the ball up in this trailer....


I am hoping the walk up, jog up or run up are cleaner and tighter this year. Hard to say obviously from this trailer..... but we'll see.