An In-Depth Look at the Changes to the NBA 2K16 Ratings System

[redsox4evur]

Quote: Originally Posted by cool318

So if we're going to compare these players to the GOAT... Kobe should be up there. That being said, i know he just turned 37 and his form is questionable. But i should note, he led the NBA in scoring for quite sometime last season. Kobe - 87? Fair to me

There's a difference between being a scorer and scoring a ton on a bad team which Kobe did. He ain't the player used to be. He should be somewhere in the low 80's. He's not an elite athlete anymore. He is coming off another leg injury. He isn't durable at all. Can't remember the last time he played more than 60 games.

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by cool318

So if we're going to compare these players to the GOAT... Kobe should be up there. That being said, i know he just turned 37 and his form is questionable. But i should note, he led the NBA in scoring for quite sometime last season. Kobe - 87? Fair to me

Chucking at abominably low efficiency on stupid high volume isn't hard. There are plenty of players that can do that. Just few have Kobe's clout where they wouldn't get immediately benched. Plus his defense is atrocious.

80-81 is pretty generous. 82-83 if he actually starts playing with any semblance of shot selection and teamwork.

Lol. Old Kobe is not only 4 points lower than prime Durant.

[ReyTV]

Might wanna tone it down there coach. Kobe still averaged over 20ppg last season, GIVEN, all that you said.


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[eko718]

Quote: Originally Posted by cool318

So if we're going to compare these players to the GOAT... Kobe should be up there. That being said, i know he just turned 37 and his form is questionable. But i should note, he led the NBA in scoring for quite sometime last season. Kobe - 87? Fair to me

I'm pretty sure ratings for the 2015-2016 season will be heavily based on performance during the 2014-2015 season. The question is not the greatness of any particular player, but how do they currently measure up in each ratings category, compared to the best ever recorded statistical data for a given category.

Last year, it was said that they use a 3 year look back to develop ratings with the most recent season having the most weight, so these are not lifetime achievement ratings.

[Wildcats302]

Quote: Originally Posted by redsox4evur

There's a difference between being a scorer and scoring a ton on a bad team which Kobe did. He ain't the player used to be. He should be somewhere in the low 80's. He's not an elite athlete anymore. He is coming off another leg injury. He isn't durable at all. Can't remember the last time he played more than 60 games.

Just every season in his career before the last two seasons. If you can't remember that, I guess you just don't have a great memory...which is cool.

I do not disagree with his rating in the low 80s, especially if they are changing the ratings and moving a lot of people down.

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by ReyTV

Might wanna tone it down there coach. Kobe still averaged over 20ppg last season, GIVEN, all that you said. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

While chucking. Pure PPG without regards to efficiency and attempts is about one of the least informative stats.

[ReyTV]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

While chucking. Pure PPG without regards to efficiency and attempts is about one of the least informative stats.

Look at the team around him dude. But aye, don't take it from me: https://youtu.be/6d2WSBadyTU


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[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by ReyTV

Look at the team around him dude. But aye, don't take it from me: https://youtu.be/6d2WSBadyTU Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

His team sucks but he still plays horrible, inefficient ball. Partly because his skill and vertical is declining and partly because he refuses to concede or find other options to get an offense going (even when it already was going). I actually watched him shoot his own team out of games taking repeated turnaround fades when they were up.

It's ineffective basketball where he ices out any semblance of team offense. Literally anyone decent at basketball could do what he did last season. Nick Young could if you allowed him that many shots. I have rarely seen basketball played that stubbornly bad from a star as if he was trying to prove some ironic point through basketball as performance shock art. You would never have seen that from Jordan. I remember the times Kobe missed games or was benched in a blowout and the Lakers scrubs would suddenly play with ball movement and chemistry looking like an actual, motivated NBA team. No, Kobe's teammates weren't good. But he seemed determined to make the least out of them almost to prove a point.

And SAS and Bayless are two of the worst commenters. Their job is to say ridiculous things to incite the lowest common denominator-- they're orchestrated troll jobs as entertainment. You could not have picked a worse example. Heh. Try Zach Lowe for actual intelligent analysis. Anything but First Take (or Barkley).

I still think Kobe has some left in the tank, but he is playing like a terrible, ineffective player. I don't know how you rank someone who likely has some skill left but chooses to play horribly. I suppose if you only rate him on what he can do when he's not playing that way you would have a higher rating-- but then Josh Smith would be a good player.

But it stands that no way is he anything but a low 80's and PPG tells nothing especially if you're shooting sub 40% to get it. In fact it's quite damning.