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Old 08-13-2015, 11:59 PM   #105
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Old 08-14-2015, 01:13 AM   #106
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I almost hate that I played this. The player movement and ball physics are top notch and have that old PES feel to them. It really is unpredictable and special. My issue is the same as others have mentioned. The lack of fouls and stoppages just give it too much of an arcade feel. If by some miracle they address that in retail, then I may make the switch back. I just don't see it happening.
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Old 08-14-2015, 03:13 AM   #107
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I almost hate that I played this. The player movement and ball physics are top notch and have that old PES feel to them. It really is unpredictable and special. My issue is the same as others have mentioned. The lack of fouls and stoppages just give it too much of an arcade feel. If by some miracle they address that in retail, then I may make the switch back. I just don't see it happening.
According to their official twitter account (@officialpes) referee's are still being worked on, so hopefully a release day patch can sort out the lack of fouls be given issue.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:30 AM   #108
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I got fouled outside the box at around the 8 minute mark. This is the US Demo by the way.

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Old 08-14-2015, 07:43 AM   #109
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I didn't play the demo yet but from reading this thread the three biggest concerns are....

1. No fouls

2. Lack of fouls

3. Not that many fouls

Am I missing something or did I nailed it?
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:43 AM   #110
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Overall I thought the game play was very good. The lack of fouls was disappointing but some of the things the computer did with the ball was incredible. I didn't play last years game but the Soccer ball just has a different feeling. I was playing Bayern Munich and I can't remember who it was but some one in the box tipped it off their knee then flipped the ball in the air and shot on goal. I probably need to tune the game speed a little. The physicality was also very good I felt like I really had to fight the computer for the ball.

The one thing I love about PES is the Superstar players look and play like themselves.

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Old 08-14-2015, 11:06 AM   #111
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Hey Matt. Just for the record you FIFA guys are dope. ha. Love your passion. I was mostly upset at some other dudes but it might have been misplaced too. Please check out this video I just recorded to see what you think about the defense and offense positioning. It felt pretty good as I played. Lots of battling in the midfield (ignore the lack of fouls - that is a problem). I do not see the same problem last year where you could just pass through the midfield right to the forward and have them control the ball. You can try it this year but centre backs or defensive mid either intercept or close down too quickly for you to do anything with the ball. I achieved this kind of play by using fluid formations. Making it so I had all my mids on offense while in possession and then when out of possession set them to be all behind the halfway line in set lines. They seem to keep shape pretty well while staying aware of runs being made and offensive players approaching with the ball. The first half is on normal speed and the second half is on -1 speed. Check it out and let me know!! I think it has potential and I love the collision system this year (other than no fouls again) and some of the little touches PES has for nifty passing and such. Pass accuracy didn't seem to crazy either which a lot of people have complained about but goes down when you set your formations correctly. haha. Anyway, I am long winded. Check it out and let me know! and everyone else here! love people's honest input. Especially enjoy Matt's because he knows what he is talking about.



Hope both games are good but i know you will stick with FIFA because of how much you can manipulate the game and make it what you want. For some reasons I just prefer PES animations, I don't know why because I know people who are complete opposite but FIFA running just bugs me a little bit. ha.
Hey man - sorry didn't respond earlier.

Okay, from what I see, it looks great. I love the reactions by the defenders and the overall attitude to build up a defensive midfield. The slower speed looks sublime.

Did you change just the user's fluid formations? And this is how the AI played? If so, I could definitely get on board with this. Fluid formations had good intentions last year, but it didn't produce the desired result. This looks more like it. Less playing around with the ball in the back and proper pressure where needed.

Thank you for the video, I hadn't gotten a chance to try Fluid formations this year yet. That video looked great. I hope you can produce more so I can watch them and analyze.

For those that don't know, and not to plug myself here, I analyze PES videos because I'm truly a PESfan. It's what I started doing to improve gameplay since I was 15 (I'm 30 now) and it will always be my game. Lately, especially since Fox Engine, the series let me down immensely. It's hard to trust KONAMI sometimes, or even EA, with the impressions they leave of basic football knowledge. I'll always accept there is a workaround, it just depends how easy and globally acceptable that workaround can be applied. I really hope someone comes out with a PC global editor this year unlike PES 15.
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It is a lot of fifa fan boys. I follow these guys from the FIFA sliders page. Saying there are no passing differences in this game but in FIFA you can NEVER curl a pass to your guys running down the flank. Just interesting to see different opinions. Also a lot of complaints about AI movement off the ball which is so much better than FIFA. I never had a player make a run in FIFA ever and the defense were as dumb as bricks. I play with fluid formation a little and can get solid defensive results on PES.
I'm a huge FIFA guy, huge, but I am a football fan first and I'd have no problem switching allegiance if I felt it was warranted. That said, here goes

As I've said, I've not spent much time with PES over the last bunch of years, so I'm reserving a lot of my gameplay comments until I have a better feel for the controls and what you can actually do.

What I will comment on here however is the tactical menus, and the menus and options in general, they're terrible. Terrible and in complete need of an overhaul. The tactical system while relatively deep suffers badly because of how counterintuitive the menu system is. There's a lot to like here, fluid formations, differing lines and pressures but it's all buried in sub menus, shame really.

The game options suffers from the same thing, I feel like I'm playing a PS2 game and in 2015 this is just inexcusable.

Graphically, I have no complaints really. The art style is a bit different from FIFA, but the game still looks great while playing.

I love the new physicality, although I'm still coming to grips with how to combat it(any help?). I also like how active everyone is, another plus.

Pass speed for me is too fast and the CPU too accurate, so fast and accurate in fact that it's nearly impossible to sit back play space and intercept passes. This forces the game to at times devolve into a tackle fest which unfortunately exacerbates the issue with fouls/referees

Skill moves, I'm still trying to come to grips with the system which for me is too complicated for its own good.

Ball physics, and physics in general is better, but still behind FIFA 15.

Anyone who knows me knows that I wasn't "raised on the game" like some of you, I'm a relative rookie when it comes to positioning, assignments, things of that nature, that's my partner's area of expertise(Matt10L) so I'll defer to him in this area.

Finally, the fun factor. All in all, I really like the game so far, it's not perfect of course, but no game is or will be. In the end whether I buy or not depends on the improvements to Master League, if option files are, well an option(PS4), the leagues available in ML and to a lesser extent the commentary.

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