Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top Safeties

[Sheba2011]

Quote: Originally Posted by SeaTownGamer

Earl Thomas is 26 years old and has been in the league 5 seasons and been an All Pro 4 times. If he keeps this up he belongs in the conversation.

If he keeps it up he will be in contention. But a guy who has only been playing 5 seasons can't be considered for greatest of all time. It's like the ones who are already electing Andrew "I threw another INT" Luck to the HOF. If you really watch Luck you see two QB's, an excellent one against poor competition and a very average one against good competition. We need to wait till any of these players retire before we talk GOAT.

Plus we have never seen him play without one of the greatest secondaries of all time. What we he do in a situation like Weddle, who has never had a Sherman or Chancellor? Would he still be just as good. It's a lot easier to say a guy is better when he is surrounded by better talent.

[SeaTownGamer]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sheba2011

No one is saying he sucks, he is just not the god level that Seattle fans make him out to be. He is one of the top 5 in the game but many outside of Seattle do not think he is the best. You do, we all have opinions. Many in New England think McCourty is the best. In California they think Weddle is.

True, everyone has their opinion but it's also true more people thinks Earl Thomas is the best FS in the NFL than they do Weddle or McCourty. So is it wrong for Seattle fans to think he is the best FS in the NFL now? Thomas has been the highest ranked FS in the NFL Top 100 the past two seasons (not that it really matters) but even if the top 100 is rated by players it's also safe to say more media and fans think Earl Thomas is better than Weddle and McCourty than the other way around...

Quote: Originally Posted by Sheba2011

If he keeps it up he will be in contention. But a guy who has only been playing 5 seasons can't be considered for greatest of all time. It's like the ones who are already electing Andrew "I threw another INT" Luck to the HOF. If you really watch Luck you see two QB's, an excellent one against poor competition and a very average one against good competition. We need to wait till any of these players retire before we talk GOAT. Plus we have never seen him play without one of the greatest secondaries of all time. What we he do in a situation like Weddle, who has never had a Sherman or Chancellor? Would he still be just as good. It's a lot easier to say a guy is better when he is surrounded by better talent.

Dude I never typed he is the GOAT. Did you read what I typed cleary bro? All I was saying was...he has potential to be in the conversation as one of the best if he keeps this up. If you disagree with it then it's fine by me...In my opinion if a player has 4 All Pro's in 5 seasons you're telling me he doesn't have a chance if he keeps it up..?

[Birdman18]

I have no horse in this race.. But Pro Football Focus does have Weddle ranked over both McCourty and Thomas on their top 101 for 2015.. I don't know how the three graded out for their 2014 seasons, but going into this season PFF has Weddle over both.. Food for thought. Carry on


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[SeaTownGamer]

Quote: Originally Posted by Birdman18

I have no horse in this race.. But Pro Football Focus does have Weddle ranked over both McCourty and Thomas on their top 101 for 2015.. I don't know how the three graded out for their 2014 seasons, but going into this season PFF has Weddle over both.. Food for thought. Carry on www.techraptor.net

Yeah and they also had Vontae Davis over Richard Sherman and Darrell Revis. Oh and they had 8 WR's ranked higher than Calvin Johnson. Does anyone believe there are eight WR's better than Calvin Johnson..?

[Sheba2011]

Quote: Originally Posted by SeaTownGamer

True, everyone has their opinion but it's also true more people thinks Earl Thomas is the best FS in the NFL than they do Weddle or McCourty. So is it wrong for Seattle fans to think he is the best FS in the NFL now? Thomas has been the highest ranked FS in the NFL Top 100 the past two seasons (not that it really matters) but even if the top 100 is rated by players it's also safe to say more media and fans think Earl Thomas is better than Weddle and McCourty than the other way around...

So because NFL 100 has him as the top, that means every fan must think the same? Is that the logic you are using? Why is that the only ranking list that matters? Bleacher Report Top 1000 has Weddle as the best safety. Does that list not carry as much weight with fans as the NFL 100? It's a silly argument to have really because there is no way to figure out what "more people" think is the better safety. Like my original point more media and fans in Seattle think Thomas is better. At the end of the day there is very little that separates Weddle, McCourty, Thomas, Gibson and Quinn they are all excellent safties.