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Old 07-31-2015, 09:56 AM   #41
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Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top Cornerbacks

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No Joe Haden? I can tell where this game is headed. Does EA ever rate these teams and players based off their real life counterparts or that Player's actual player ranking? Like NFL.com has a 2015 Top 100 list out. Hello, EA you can actually use this if you are promoting realism. Just to show how bad these lists are.... let's do some factoring based off real player rankings.

There are 11 guys on defense. You do Top 5 for each position, that's 55 players. Same for offense. You do a Top 5 for each position that leaves a total of 110 ranked players. That's 10 MORE than the actual Top 100 Player ranking list!

Now Mr. Joe Haden comes in ranked #23 in the NFL. Not #23rd cornerback. #23 ranked NFL Player for the 2015 season. Joe Thomas comes in at #25 overall. That's both offense and defense. The 3 DB's ahead of Haden are as follows:

#11 - Richard Sherman
#17 - Derrelle Revis
#19 - Patrick Peterson

So according to realism, Joe Haden is the 4th best NFL DB in the league. According to whatever EA is deciding to release, whoever they listed are. And this means the team ratings are going to be ridiculous also but now that we see they can't get players right, how can the overall teams be?
Realism? You think that an arbitrary list compiled by special teamers and the occasional starter is realism?.... no

Look at hard metrics and data - they'll both convey mediocre seasons by both Haden and PP.
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:59 AM   #42
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Ol' Dick Sherm will be crying about this for sure.
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Old 07-31-2015, 10:01 AM   #43
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Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings: Top 5 Cornerbacks

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I already did "my quick trot over to PFF" and guess what? Chris Harris Jr was rated by them as not only the best CB in the NFL but as the #4 BEST OVERALL PLAYER, behind JJ Watt, Aaron Rodgers and Justin Houston.

He had the highest grade at the end of 2014 of all CB's in the business.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ris-harris-jr/


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Against number 2's primarily....

This is why you don't see Dallas fans jumping up and down about Scandrick because we accept the fact that Brandon Carr is inferior, is guarding #1's, is likely targeted more.

Scandrick guards 2's thus I won't toot his horn. Easy for any corner to look good when you have an immaculate pass rush and an offense that scores so teams have to get one dimensional and throw.

Harris, Scandrick and Davis all gave up zero touchdowns last year with over 800 snaps. What's that say about Scandrick not being on this list? See how ridiculous that sounds?
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I'll be interested to see what some of these corners have for tackle ratings. Sherman might be a 97 but he should be in the 30's or 40's when it comes to tackling.
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Against number 2's primarily....

This is why you don't see Dallas fans jumping up and down about Scandrick because we accept the fact that Brandon Carr is inferior, is guarding #1's, is likely targeted more.

Scandrick guards 2's thus I won't toot his horn. Easy for any corner to look good when you have an immaculate pass rush and an offense that scores so teams have to get one dimensional and throw.

Harris, Scandrick and Davis all gave up zero touchdowns last year with over 800 snaps. What's that say about Scandrick not being on this list? See how ridiculous that sounds?

Apparently you didn't read the article nor see the grades of all the corners. Sherman played the #1 less than Harris. The Patriots had the #1 scoring offense. Neither one of those arguments, the ones you make against Harris, are used against Revis or Sherman.

If you have the PFF subscription, please look at the hard data. It's indisputable that Harris had the best year of any CB. Those are facts, numbers don't lie. To counter your claim that he played the slot too.. Don't most teams play their fastest, quickest WR's in the slot? Usually they do.. Look at the film. You'll see Harris dominate everyone he lined up against.. 1's, 2's, 3's and even the water boys


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Apparently you didn't read the article nor see the grades of all the corners. Sherman played the #1 less than Harris. The Patriots had the #1 scoring offense. Neither one of those arguments, the ones you make against Harris, are used against Revis or Sherman.

If you have the PFF subscription, please look at the hard data. It's indisputable that Harris had the best year of any CB. Those are facts, numbers don't lie. To counter your claim that he played the slot too.. Don't most teams play their fastest, quickest WR's in the slot? Usually they do.. Look at the film. You'll see Harris dominate everyone he lined up against.. 1's, 2's, 3's and even the water boys


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I clearly states that Sherman plays less against a number 1 wr (only 20% of the time). This argument isn't about Sherman. Harris is #2 on that list at 35% of the time.


Not to mention that Harris struggles in man according to it as well and is primarily a system (scheme) zone corner.


We'll see what he does this year with even more tape on him

Then maybe you Broncos fans can hop off him for one second.
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I clearly states that Sherman plays less against a number 1 wr (only 20% of the time). This argument isn't about Sherman. Harris is #2 on that list at 35% of the time.

We'll see what he does this year with even more tape on him

Then maybe you Broncos fans can hop off him for one second.

I'm not a Broncos fan


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I'm not a Broncos fan


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