Some New Madden NFL 16 Screenshots

[FaceMask]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Yep, that's why I say people have too high of expectations for one cycle. If they add edit players and draft classes but no weekly wrap up then people will complain about that. If they work on gap assignments and player movement, people will complain about a lack of dynamic weather or defensive assignments or formation subs or __________. There will always be something to complain about, if that is what you are looking to find.

In gamer's defense, a lot of what they complain about falls into:

A. It was in a previous Madden and was taken out
B. Was in multiple other football games in prior generations

There is also the critical point of how long Madden has been in development as a franchise. A lot of these things are small details that were nailed in other games a long time ago. Guys, we don't even have a proper full playcall screen and it's less functional than Madden 09's; a lot of people were unhappy with 15's specifically, and what did Tiburon do about it? Nothing. They gave us the exact same one all over again.

They make a lot of bad design decisions and they often work and/or fool around with things nobody was asking for, and to be honest I feel like that alone is a big reason why we're missing so many things in this game. Say what you will about Madden 10, but I give that past group credit for going the extra mile to add the exact small details that people were asking them for. They didn't do a lot of them properly and there was fallout over that, but still, they made the effort and people respected that effort at least. This current group simply doesn't appear to have that resolve.

[munky1307]

You can't make everyone happy. With the improvements that have been made on the field with this team, it's hard not to at least be impressed with what they've done (wr/db interactions, physics influenced tackles, gang tackles, improved ol/dl play [no, not perfect], defensive camera, etc). I work with software daily and I know how difficult it can be making a change without affecting/breaking anything else. That only multiplies the larger your team gets. The complexity of coding these next gen games is way beyond what people think I believe. On top of that they have to maintain that offensive/defensive balance.

Sure I wish it was more. I miss formation subs, I wish the play call screen was better, replays were better, halftime show was better, post game wrap up, etc. But the reality is they make decisions as soon as they release the game what is going to be in the next year. Then it's a rat race to get all of those items in. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of regression testing that has to be done when they make major changes. And I'm sure things that seem minor are major changes. I see that misconception daily with my business partners. They request something they perceive as "easy to do". The reality is things can be extremely complex when it comes to coding and making it work alongside what is already implemented.

I'm not making excuses because I've been in the dissatisfied group for quite a few years but it is what it is. Madden 16 looks like it should be a pretty good game and I'll accept it good or bad because in reality, it's the only football game we have.

I would bet though these guys were pulling 50-60 hour weeks. I know I have prior to new software launches. Has to be tough to swallow for these guys when people insult their work ethic or "how much they care". Walk a mile in their shoes first.

With that said I'm glad people come on here and voice their displeasure of what's missing because that's how EA knows what's important to us as a community. It's a double edged sword I suppose.

// rant over

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by FaceMask

In gamer's defense, a lot of what they complain about falls into: A. It was in a previous Madden and was taken out B. Was in multiple other football games in prior generations There is also the critical point of how long Madden has been in development as a franchise. A lot of these things are small details that were nailed in other games a long time ago. Guys, we don't even have a proper full playcall screen and it's less functional than Madden 09's; a lot of people were unhappy with 15's specifically, and what did Tiburon do about it? Nothing. They gave us the exact same one all over again. They make a lot of bad design decisions and they often work and/or fool around with things nobody was asking for, and to be honest I feel like that alone is a big reason why we're missing so many things in this game. Say what you will about Madden 10, but I give that past group credit for going the extra mile to add the exact small details that people were asking them for. They didn't do a lot of them properly and there was fallout over that, but still, they made the effort and people respected that effort at least. This current group simply doesn't appear to have that resolve.

Oh, I think it's a bit early to start the pitchforks on the current regime. I keep bringing this up, but 2 years ago this upcoming November, Clint and Rex were interviewed and the audience asked questions about when would be see wr/db interactions and working penalties in the game. Rex's answer was if you don't seem them in 15, you will see them in 16.

Also, you mention the small details of 10, like the request of hand towels, refs, etc.....Couldn't the little things like that considered to be similar to female fans, proper clothing, etc....

You've already stated it earlier, it's the slow approach and the muck they need to get through from the same coding.

I don't think it's anything about resolve.

[JKSportsGamer1984]

Quote: Originally Posted by FaceMask

In gamer's defense, a lot of what they complain about falls into: A. It was in a previous Madden and was taken out B. Was in multiple other football games in prior generations There is also the critical point of how long Madden has been in development as a franchise. A lot of these things are small details that were nailed in other games a long time ago. Guys, we don't even have a proper full playcall screen and it's less functional than Madden 09's; a lot of people were unhappy with 15's specifically, and what did Tiburon do about it? Nothing. They gave us the exact same one all over again. They make a lot of bad design decisions and they often work and/or fool around with things nobody was asking for, and to be honest I feel like that alone is a big reason why we're missing so many things in this game. Say what you will about Madden 10, but I give that past group credit for going the extra mile to add the exact small details that people were asking them for. They didn't do a lot of them properly and there was fallout over that, but still, they made the effort and people respected that effort at least. This current group simply doesn't appear to have that resolve.

I agree with this post except for the play calling screen part lol. I personally LOVE Madden 15's play calling screen/format. I think it has way more depth than ever before & love how it's set up. To each's own though. People aren't always going to agree on things especially when it comes to preference so I do somewhat sympathize with EA in this regard.

[Lakers24win]

Last year ea added a player likeness patch and changed the faces on some of the players!!!!! Why can't they do a patch like that for equiptment.. At least just the shooters leave that 70 percent of the nfl wears! Instead they will prob add it next year and have there chest poked out about it.. That's the thing, they need to start going the extra mile.. And not just when the sales are bad.. (See nba live teams effort now that they have there backs against the wall).. EA! Go the extra mile for authenticity!!! Nba 2k does this well!! That's why they now sell more.. People notice that kind of effort!

[Lakers24win]

Just went to my local GameStop to preorder madden and asked if they were doing a midnight release.. Dude said he didn't know because not enough people had preordered.. Back in the day madden automatically got a midnight release.. He did say nba 2k was getting one, and he knew this this far out from release.. This is because of the little things.. Say equiptment got in this year.. The whole perception of this game looks the same argument might be diff.. People might perceive the Devs as listening to us closer. There is still time... Rex get that patch in the works.. U guys can patch equiptment this year then elaborate on it next year.. Don't let us down.

[iLLWiLL]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lakers24win

Last year ea added a player likeness patch and changed the faces on some of the players!!!!! Why can't they do a patch like that for equiptment..

This is a damn good question.

JP or Kane -- can you ask the developers whether it is possible? I don't see why it wouldn't be. The graphic detail for arm sleeves & mouthpieces is far less than those of player faces ...

[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by iLLWiLL

This is a damn good question. JP or Kane -- can you ask the developers whether it is possible? I don't see why it wouldn't be. The graphic detail for arm sleeves & mouthpieces is far less than those of player faces ...

I think there's a problem with their tech that doesn't allow sleeves on individual arms. Remember when they said RG3 would have his sleeve? It wasn't even a real shooters sleeve like he wears, it was basically just a shirt with one long and one short sleeve. They could just take the "arm wrap" or whatever it's called in the game that no one wears in real life, and retexture it to be a padded shooters sleeve.

Idk how EA can go around adding tattoos to one or two guys a year but can't update the equipment that every player wears, they STILL have reebok glove in the game.