Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by playajay98

I'll be totally honest, FBG ratings sounds great and I didn't know about them until yesterday so I went to his site and saw Broncos CB Chris Harris Jr., #1 CB rated by Pro Football Focus rated by Dan a 74...I too was outraged! Here I am, a SIM football gamer, calling for at least a B grade for the best corner last year. It requires trust though and I am willing to try them out. Good Luck, Dan. I think when people have a chance to play using your ratings and see the difference, we will all be better for it.

Personally, I hate PFF. They only look at the outcome of each play. They even say it in their FAQ on how they grade players. They won't tell you the specific traits that comprise a player. PFF is good for looking at tendencies, but not for rating football players. PFF also had Brad Jones as an up and coming star in 2013 and look what happened there. GB threw a big contract at him and he was awful. We had him at a 5.6, nowhere near budding-star material.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ar-brad-jones/

According to my data, Harris is the 15th best CB in the league. That's pretty darn good. So whereas a 74 OVR would make him the 15th best CB according to my data, the 15th best CB according to EA would be rated an 87. A 74 OVR CB in Madden would mean he is the 94th best CB. That should speak to the blatant over-inflation in this game now.

[wpgjets23]

I'm curious how the FBG rated roster is affected by the draft classes?

[bloobloouk]

Quote: Originally Posted by wpgjets23

I'm curious how the FBG rated roster is affected by the draft classes?

I gather that CFM is unplayable at present with the current FBG rosters as the draft classes are overpowered. Of course this would no longer be an issue if they were the default and the draft class generation system was updated to reflect that.

This is only reason I haven't played with FBG's rosters - I'm a CFM player and they currently don't fit.

[wpgjets23]

Quote: Originally Posted by bloobloouk

I gather that CFM is unplayable at present with the current FBG rosters as the draft classes are overpowered. Of course this would no longer be an issue if they were the default and the draft class generation system was updated to reflect that. This is only reason I haven't played with FBG's rosters - I'm a CFM player and they currently don't fit.

Thank you. I was thinking that might be the case, so I'll continue to play NCAA 14.

[JO122194]

Great News! Donny has wayyyy to many 90s in there. I'm a fan of the ratings of FIFA and 2k where the majority of great players are 80s with only a few elite players getting low 90's. I think issues with gameplay have been a result because of this and hopefully they move to a better rating system. Probably wouldn't happen this year tho

[crenk]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

It sucks that something like this is based on such a "wow" factor when it comes to the casual audience. "Aaron Rodgers is a 90?!?!?!?!? What do you mean a 90?" It wouldn't matter if 90 was the best QB in the game, he still wouldn't be seen as rated highly enough and I think that's something they need to try and get out of peoples minds. There has come this stigma with 99 and breakout players that I wish they could break but I just don't see it happening. I think getting rid of the overall would definitely be a positive move. Especially considering there's now a playercard that gives you most of the important attributes. It would force people to know or at least focus more on the player rather than some arbitrary number that really doesn't mean a whole lot. Whether you get rid of it altogether or change it to something like a bar from MVP Baseball, something needs to be done and it seems like they're at least somewhat aware of it but don't really have a plan as of yet.

Yes, the 99 should be reserved for that once in a generation player that is "the best of all time". If you were to play a 30 year franchise you would see maybe 10 players reach a 99. The way it is now if you load up current rosters you will probably see dozens today, over a 30 year franchise probably 100's of 99's. I am a huge pats fan and love Brady. I think he is an all time great but im not sure I would rank him at a 99 at any point in his career. If I did it would for a year or two stretch.

Thats another issue once a 99 rating is achieved it should be short lived. That should be the absolute peak of a once in a generation player. Most of their career should be spent in low to mid 90's with a peak rating of 99 and then back down to mid low 90's. Using Brady as the example. It would be the Moss, almost perfect season. That was the greatest season I have ever witnessed by a quarterback, brady was as perfect as a QB can get, but it was short lived. That was his peak year, his 99, but you cant sustain that level for long.

In Madden once somebody like JJ Watt or Tom Brady or whoever hits a 99 Rating they stay there, for years and years and years of a franchise which is to me unrealistic.

[crenk]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeremym480

This was pretty much what I was thinking as well. Although my other thought would be the simplest of simple solutions which is to have both ratings (Madden Classic Ratings and FBG Ratings/"Stretched Ratings") in the game; and when you load up a roster/CFM you get to choose which ratings system that you want to go with. That would appease each side... The side that wants to play with the over inflated ratings and the stretched ratings side.

Or even simpler, let us edit mid CFM, EA has to do nothing in terms of ratings and they dont even need to pay Dan, which if I read his words right, is not really his motivation on this anyway, so I mean no offense. He wants what is best for the sim gamer.
So EA has an easy solution to keep the tourney/cheesers happy with the out of the box jacked ratings and gives sim players the ability to have the community make the sim ratings with little outlay of resources on their part.

Seems like such a no brainer EA, COME ON

[redsox4evur]

Quote: Originally Posted by crenk

Yes, the 99 should be reserved for that once in a generation player that is "the best of all time". If you were to play a 30 year franchise you would see maybe 10 players reach a 99. The way it is now if you load up current rosters you will probably see dozens today, over a 30 year franchise probably 100's of 99's. I am a huge pats fan and love Brady. I think he is an all time great but im not sure I would rank him at a 99 at any point in his career. If I did it would for a year or two stretch. Thats another issue once a 99 rating is achieved it should be short lived. That should be the absolute peak of a once in a generation player. Most of their career should be spent in low to mid 90's with a peak rating of 99 and then back down to mid low 90's. Using Brady as the example. It would be the Moss, almost perfect season. That was the greatest season I have ever witnessed by a quarterback, brady was as perfect as a QB can get, but it was short lived. That was his peak year, his 99, but you cant sustain that level for long. In Madden once somebody like JJ Watt or Tom Brady or whoever hits a 99 Rating they stay there, for years and years and years of a franchise which is to me unrealistic.

There is one year I would rate Brady a 99 on a starting roster 2008. He had the great 2007 season. Led the team to the most wins in a season and postseason combined. Perfect record in the regular season. He had 4806 yards and an NFL record (at the time) 50 TD's.