Rory McIlroy PGA Tour Trailer - Chambers Bay

[DivotMaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by JODYE

So they didn't do that to people who bought the game the last 3 years? But I always love the ole, "I have nothing legitimate to contribute so I'm going to point to your hidden agenda as the reason that we can't discuss further" angle, even though I bought this game faithfully from 2001 until 2 years ago. Only rented the last 2. You're right. I'll live in reality, and you live in a fantasy land where EA actually has the gamers best interest in mind. That is rich indeed.

Like I said, carry on with your agenda. I don't care if you flame EA and their decisions with their Golf franchise, but some of your comments are wildly speculative and not at all based in fact. I also fail to see how attacking me personally with your last comment validates your POV whatsoever. Not once have I said that EA has the gamers best interest in mind. They could improve mightily on this and if you ever want to have an objective, yet constructive conversation, I'm game. Based on the above, I'll pass.

Take Care.

Back on Topic....

Chambers Bay........

[pietasterp]

Well, I think we can all agree we basically want a more sim-like golf game (or at least one that focuses more heavily on those aspects of the game). Maybe we disagree on how to get there.

Re: EA's latter 360/PS3 offerings, I tend to think that by that point, players had already given up on the series and weren't inclined to give any more benefits of the doubt (at least that was the case for me; can't speak for others). Sales lag performance a lot of times, by at least a year or two. In the case of NBA2K, it took at least 5-6 years of being the better game by far (starting on Dreamcast) before it finally started to pull even w/ NBA Live. Such is the power of branding, and it cuts both ways.

I do agree that the golf game niche is probably smaller than before, but the overall gaming audience is probably much bigger than 10-15 years ago. I feel like a game that was of the quality of an NBA2k or Links (way back in the day) would still be very successful today (very possible I could be wrong), but the quality has to be there consistently and for a duration of time before it gets acknowledged with sales. Will EA be patient enough? Or keep changing tack every year when they don't see instant results?

Anyway, I re-watched that gameplay video and I still don't like the swing animations. There has to be a way to smooth out the backswing/downswing transition even if you're using analog swing mode. That freeze/hitch-at-the-top part just kills the realism for me.

[DivotMaker]

The "freeze/hitch" you describe is classic evidence that the user is controlling the animation and paused at the top of the swing. None of the earlier swing videos exhibited this phenomena.

[pietasterp]

Quote: Originally Posted by DivotMaker

The "freeze/hitch" you describe is classic evidence that the user is controlling the animation and paused at the top of the swing. None of the earlier swing videos exhibited this phenomena.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I'm hoping they can still smooth it out, though, either via the animation itself or via the 'preferred' input - aka the game doesn't encourage you to stop but rather make one continuous back-forward motion w/ the right stick. Or something to that extent.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by JODYE

You're right. I'll live in reality, and you live in a fantasy land where EA actually has the gamers best interest in mind. That is rich indeed.

This is a completely unnecessary comment.

I expect posts like this in the Madden forum but not here.



I'm also still waiting for your answer to this question because I know for a fact one of the two of you has and it's not you:

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One question for you....have you ever worked with or spoken with anyone at Tiburon regarding their Golf titles?

[JODYE]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

This is a completely unnecessary comment. I expect posts like this in the Madden forum but not here. I'm also still waiting for your answer to this question because I know for a fact one of the two of you has and it's not you:

Give the context in which the question was asked, you don't need to work at Tiburon to understand how animation works and how those things are built. My uncle is an animator for Disney and have seen the process first hand. But I digress.

Doesn't excuse the options given to us, or lack there of.

If youre going to be upset about that comment I made, then you should possess the same disdain for his statement regarding some personal agenda that I have.

I agree, two wrongs dont make a right.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by JODYE

If youre going to be upset about that comment I made, then you should possess the same disdain for his statement regarding some personal agenda that I have. I agree, two wrongs dont make a right.

Without using the word agenda are you not also accusing him of the same thing?

[JODYE]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

Without using the word agenda are you not also accusing him of the same thing?

Thats why I said two wrongs dont make a right. I admit the err of my ways in response.