Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR Trailer and Blog - Night Club Challenge

[jbd345]

Quote: Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti

That's what infuriates me. Golf is the the oldest sports video game on the market. I remember playing Links on my 386 computer and it was extremely popular, before Madden and everything else. If anything this type of game has the most mature demographic and should be treated like a serious sports sim more than any other sports game. But for some reason as soon as EA got Tiger on the cover, they needed to dumb it down. They continually made it to cater to the lowest common denominator and it never evolved. Sure they went the sim route the last few versions which I applaud and thought was going in the right direction but the rest of the features needed to complement that was kept as shallow as possible. The game became a big contradiction. We'll try and make it as real as possible but in a lifeless environment. They went out of thier way to make it boring and they succeeded and lagging sales are proof. You have to liven it up but not this way especially when other sports games are way ahead of them in terms of immersion.

Agreed with everything you've said. It is a shame that they think they have to cater to kids. Golf is a different sport. You can play it your whole life. Granted a 60 year old isn't going to by a ps4/video game, but it's golf everyone that plays can relate to it, weather your 10 or 50. They have such a huge demographic, like I said on the beginning its sad they only see one portion of it.

[lhslancers]

Quote: Originally Posted by jbd345

Agreed with everything you've said. It is a shame that they think they have to cater to kids. Golf is a different sport. You can play it your whole life. Granted a 60 year old isn't going to by a ps4/video game, but it's golf everyone that plays can relate to it, weather your 10 or 50. They have such a huge demographic, like I said on the beginning its sad they only see one portion of it.

I'm 63 and I would buy it.

[OnlookerDelay]

I'm 60 and the inclusion of Night Club golf wouldn't prevent me from buying the game. I know I won't play it, but if helps sell the game to a younger, less traditional golf audience, so be it. I just hope the Tour mode play is realistic enough to satisfy my interests. EA Sports has shown the arcade crowd more of what they're interested in than those seeking a realistic golf challenge thus far, but they probably have marketing data to back up that approach.

[pietasterp]

Quote: Originally Posted by OnlookerDelay

I'm 60 and the inclusion of Night Club golf wouldn't prevent me from buying the game. I know I won't play it, but if helps sell the game to a younger, less traditional golf audience, so be it.

I wonder if the numbers back this assumption up, though? To me, this reeks of almost all laughably transparent corporate attempts to "be hip" and "appeal to the kids" that mostly fail, because it's hard - albeit not impossible - to focus-group manufacture cool (whatever unquantifiable thing 'cool' even is....).

If there is any evidence that the game is improving, say, sales to under-21 year old individuals, while simultaneously not losing 30+ year olds (who have most of the disposable income at this point) for a net-gain in revenue, than I guess this would make sense. But from an anecdotal point of view, does anyone honestly think that a 15-year-old that otherwise has no interest in golf whatsoever would suddenly start to give a golf game serious consideration because it has Battlefield courses and a "Night Club" (whatever the f* that is)? To me, this logic just makes no sense whatsoever and can only have been cooked up in some C-suite by an over-50 Ivy MBA...

I mean, this line of thinking extended to anything else would just be ridiculous. It's like saying, "Now I know teenagers have no interest in derivatives trading, but if we got Taylor Swift to ring the bell at the NYSE, I'm sure they'd all start flooding into the market in droves!!!".

Quote: Originally Posted by OnlookerDelay

EA Sports has shown the arcade crowd more of what they're interested in than those seeking a realistic golf challenge thus far, but they probably have marketing data to back up that approach.

I wonder if they do, though (vis-a-vis my above rant)? To me, it seems like if you're interested in non-sim golf, there's "Hot Shots" and "Mario Golf". It's a pretty narrow market. As the only officially-licensed golf game, the focus should be pretty much exclusively on sim. I think the people that are interested in the casual games and the sim games are non-overlapping groups, and it's futile to think you can capture both simultaneously.

[Darkmiss]

for those of you that say this new mode is just an arcade add on that you don't have to touch.

1: this is going to take up a large amount of your limited hard drive space
(for something a lot of people won't use)

2: you can bet this is going to have trophies and achievements attached to this... fantasy mode

Right now, the best thing they could do is remove this from the main game completely and give it away as a free DLC to those that might like it.

if not then they have lost my money and confidence.

[JODYE]

Quote: Originally Posted by OnlookerDelay

I'm 60 and the inclusion of Night Club golf wouldn't prevent me from buying the game. I know I won't play it, but if helps sell the game to a younger, less traditional golf audience, so be it. I just hope the Tour mode play is realistic enough to satisfy my interests. EA Sports has shown the arcade crowd more of what they're interested in than those seeking a realistic golf challenge thus far, but they probably have marketing data to back up that approach.

Here is the problem...it won't be.

This has been the issue for years. They spend so much time and energy putting in these BS modes that have little to zero replay value just to market to a younger demographic, that they forget about the core gamer that supported this series for years when it was still 3 click swing golf.

Ball physics are still terrible. Animations are robotic and lifeless. Presentation has been an afterthought for years and years. Career mode is a joke. But damnit, we have a battleship course that blows up as you play.

[sroz39]

13 and 14 were quite realistic on the right settings and the Career modes were entertaining, and I wasn't the only one who thought so.

But to each his own

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[pietasterp]

Quote: Originally Posted by JODYE

They spend so much time and energy putting in these BS modes that have little to zero replay value just to market to a younger demographic, that they forget about the core gamer that supported this series for years when it was still 3 click swing golf.

Hey, now - it's still 3-click swing golf to me!