Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

[extremeskins04]

I'm really curious how the penalty animations flow. Like does it cut awkwardly into an animation when a player is committing a penalty? Or is it smooth and flowing normally as part of the game?

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by extremeskins04

I'm really curious how the penalty animations flow. Like does it cut awkwardly into an animation when a player is committing a penalty? Or is it smooth and flowing normally as part of the game?

It flows prety naturally from what I remember.

I'm curious though, how did the Shields Thomas penalty work exactly? It called the penalty but they never made contact?

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

I did not see false start, offsides, or encroachment trigger without using the fake snap button, except in the case where a user manually moved his defender offsides. I also did not see any field goal / punt plays where a pre-snap penalty was instantly called, either (which is how those penalties have always appeared to work in previous EA Sports football game). Granted, small sample size.

Gotcha. Thanks for the info. Hmm I wonder if that could be tuned at all so that it does happen without it. I guess the worst case scenario is I adapt and start using the fake snap button. Shouldn't be too much of a problem as long as the CPU is able to draw my CPU guys off in the same fashion.

One thing that could become a minor issue when it comes to special teams is that as the user, you don't have the ability to do a hard count, which completely makes sense. But for whatever reason the CPU does have that ability and actually used it quite often in M15

[Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

It flows prety naturally from what I remember. I'm curious though, how did the Shields Thomas penalty work exactly? It called the penalty but they never made contact?

It was a two-man interaction which triggered when I used the context-sensitive control post-pass to tell Shields to play the ball, I believe. It did result with contact between the two - Shields basically cutting Thomas off and making contact with Thomas in doing so, then Thomas begging for a flag - but contact was not the trigger of the interaction.

Quote: Originally Posted by extremeskins04

I'm really curious how the penalty animations flow. Like does it cut awkwardly into an animation when a player is committing a penalty? Or is it smooth and flowing normally as part of the game?

The animations weren't jarring or abrupt, they all fit within the course of the game. All the penalty animations did make it completely obvious that a penalty was occurring, however; there weren't any "tough calls" as it were. I got to the point where I could identify a defensive holding foul occurring pretty quickly, because Dmitri Goodson is terrible and kept grabbing Emmanuel Sanders, lol.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

It was a two-man interaction which triggered when I used the context-sensitive control post-pass to tell Shields to play the ball, I believe. It did result with contact between the two - Shields basically cutting Thomas off and making contact with Thomas in doing so, then Thomas begging for a flag - but contact was not the trigger of the interaction. The animations weren't jarring or abrupt, they all fit within the course of the game. All the penalty animations did make it completely obvious that a penalty was occurring, however; there weren't any "tough calls" as it were. I got to the point where I could identify a defensive holding foul occurring pretty quickly, because Dmitri Goodson is terrible and kept grabbing Emmanuel Sanders, lol.

Sounds great, but stop hating on Goodson lol. No really though I don't know how good he is yet, he hasn't played very much at this point in his career.

[bcruise]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

- On how penalty sliders function in Madden NFL 16 - the example I was given was with offensive holding. At the default value of 50, the holding chance is pretty low on any given play; there are about 2.5 offensive holding penalties per game in real life, per Tiburon's research, and the game is tuned to get that number on average. Increasing the offensive holding slider to 99 will effectively multiply that target average value by 10, so the chance for a holding penalty on any given play goes way up and one should expect to see around 25 holding penalties in an average Madden game at this setting. I was also told that penalty sliders do not affect any non-penalty components of gameplay. You won't see general run blocking success or failure rates change by messing with the offensive holding slider, for example.

First off, that whole post is the best info about Madden that I've read in many, many years. Not just for the fact that penalties exist, but because of what it represents - that the dev team really does want to make this game better for us sim heads.

I do have a question about this part as it relates to average penalties per game - is that scaled up depending on how long the quarters are? If I play a 15 minute quarter game, would I see more penalties per game than someone playing 5 minute quarters? Of course assuming the sliders work this is a non-issue, but it would be nice to not have to move them much off the defaults.

Thanks!

[Hooe]

I actually did not think to ask about the quarter length the penalties were tuned for. I'll be sure to ask one of the EA guys about that tomorrow.

[Cohle]

Hopefully the %'s are set by play, not time. That would keep penalties right no matter how you set the clock to get your 120 plays or so. If you play shorter games, getting closer to 60 plays a game, you would get half the penalties, but it would feel right.