Press Row Podcast Episode 136: Madden NFL 16 CFM Deep Dive

[mestevo]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

Hard to ignore XP when that's the mechanism used for progression.

Post was complaining about the 'stupid game goals'

Even then, I let the AI do a lot of my progression and just play the game. My OCD is waning and just want to enjoy the game.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

Post was complaining about the 'stupid game goals' Even then, I let the AI do a lot of my progression and just play the game. My OCD is waning and just want to enjoy the game.

Then go ahead and enjoy the game. But the guys not wrong about disliking XP/goals and how that inherently changes the way one plays, if they want the team to progress. Sounds like it's even a goal of the designers since EA is stating it changes the way one plays the game.

Dude, I have nothing against you enjoying playing Madden.

[ggsimmonds]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

They don't force anything and can be ignored, there's no downside.

Except for the resources that were devoted to their implementation.

[jfsolo]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

Then go ahead and enjoy the game. But the guys not wrong about disliking XP/goals and how that inherently changes the way one plays, if they want the team to progress. Sounds like it's even a goal of the designers since EA is stating it changes the way one plays the game. Dude, I have nothing against you enjoying playing Madden.

It doesn't inherently change the way one plays, it's just that many people can't help themselves and allow their meta knowledge to affect their play style. I played through more than 10 season in CFM in Madden 15 and I never let any goals influence how I played in any game. I played my style, adjusted to whatever game situation occurred and let the XP chips fall where they may. The players who progressed the best/got the most XP did so because my style and play calling allowed them to make the most plays.

Not liking this system is a completely reasonable stance to have, but it really is a User choice to allow it to influence your play style in any way.

[oneamongthefence]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

It doesn't inherently change the way one plays, it's just that many people can't help themselves and allow their meta knowledge to affect their play style. I played through more than 10 season in CFM in Madden 15 and I never let any goals influence how I played in any game. I played my style, adjusted to whatever game situation occurred and let the XP chips fall where they may. The players who progressed the best/got the most XP did so because my style and play calling allowed them to make the most plays. Not liking this system is a completely reasonable stance to have, but it really is a User choice to allow it to influence your play style in any way.

I agree. And many of the goals sound like stuff you would do anyway. If your worried about goals being easily attained just bump difficulty/sliders. Those who want to throw for 700 yards a game are gonna do that any. The only way to really counter that is have a wear and tear system that accounts for snaps played hits taken etc.

[Markdoe]

This interview was a joke, right? A prank or somthing correct? Please somebody tell me they're kidding. Next gen is seeming to be so not worth it. I'm sorry... Just my opinion. But a let down one. Money and greed is ruining everything once again it seems. Sad face.

[howboutdat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Markdoe

This interview was a joke, right? A prank or somthing correct? Please somebody tell me they're kidding? Next gen is seeming to be so not worth it. I'm sorry... Just my opinion. But a let down one. Money and greed is ruining everything once again it seems. Sad face.

agreed @markdoe , im done with this game already. Have fun to all the casual gamers.seems all EA cares about at this point.

[Hooe]

So I get that there's obvious disappointment with the lack of any real meaty bones tossed to the hardcore Madden CFM user this year. I do. Being perfectly clear, I'm disappointed about that fact as well. There were things I wanted to see that apparently won't be in Madden NFL 16.

However, I think we should be careful about conflating "accessibility improvements" with "Madden doesn't care about the hardcore user at all whatsoever anymore". A fair number of things that have been added to the mode this year - most notably the new user interface (which was desperately needed IMO), but also the reimagined scouting workflow, additional options for online league management, and asserted adjustments to the balance of Confidence (and say what you will about dynamic goals, I'm not going to count it here for sake of argument) - are things that anyone can enjoy, hardcore gamer or casual player.

The ability to get around Connected Franchise mode faster and obtain relevant team-building decision-making information more quickly by itself definitely will make engaging with the mode more enjoyable and improve the experience overall, even if not necessarily deeper or more authentic.