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Old 03-10-2015, 05:17 AM   #121
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Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Ratings - Top Rated Players For Each Team

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I have no idea why you guys are arguing about steal ability when the game also has steal aggressiveness.

How often does a player run? A lot, well they get a high agressiveness rating. Are they caught at a relatively high percentage? Yes? Well, then they should receive an appropriate rating for steal ability.
That's exactly what the aggressiveness rating is for, but it probably still doesn't completely express the nature of stealing...

... for example a sneaky base stealer who does not attempt a steal often but does so successfully when he does. It's easy to give him a very high BR Ability and low BR Aggressiveness, but BR Aggressiveness (to my knowledge) doesn't really affect user-controlled player.

So when such a player is user controlled, he can be turned into a prolific base stealer... which probably isn't ideal.

Who knows what BR Aggressiveness does to user-controlled runners, but if you take the in-game description of the attribute at its faith value, I think BR Ability tries to factor in this effect by reflecting the ability to steal repeatedly, even when the defense is alert.

A high BR Ability player can maintain a relatively high steal success rate even when he keeps stealing and when the defense is alert. A relatively low BR Ability player can occasionally attempt to steal successfully when the defense isn't expecting, but if he tries to many times, he won't steal successfully.

That's just my guess from the in-game description though.
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Old 03-10-2015, 06:09 AM   #122
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That's exactly what the aggressiveness rating is for, but it probably still doesn't completely express the nature of stealing...

... for example a sneaky base stealer who does not attempt a steal often but does so successfully when he does. It's easy to give him a very high BR Ability and low BR Aggressiveness, but BR Aggressiveness (to my knowledge) doesn't really affect user-controlled player.

So when such a player is user controlled, he can be turned into a prolific base stealer... which probably isn't ideal.

Who knows what BR Aggressiveness does to user-controlled runners, but if you take the in-game description of the attribute at its faith value, I think BR Ability tries to factor in this effect by reflecting the ability to steal repeatedly, even when the defense is alert.

A high BR Ability player can maintain a relatively high steal success rate even when he keeps stealing and when the defense is alert. A relatively low BR Ability player can occasionally attempt to steal successfully when the defense isn't expecting, but if he tries to many times, he won't steal successfully.

That's just my guess from the in-game description though.
Does speed not come into play when a user is controlling a runner?

Say a high ability runner with average speed tries to steal. Will they be more successful than a average ability runner with high speed?

I'm speaking more towards sim stats, but I think that there is a balance there than can be achieved. For someone like Hamilton I hope that giving him a lower ability, high agg, high speed balances out to where the sim stats are realistic in that he attempts a lot, but not at a very high success rate. But also for user controlled situations where he would get caught by the CPU at a similar rate.

The same goes for a slower, but higher ability runner. If they are slow I'd hope that in game they get caught if a user is trying to steal with them constantly.

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Old 03-10-2015, 07:16 AM   #123
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Max Scherzer is overrated as is Tanaka.


Why does Delabar have a higher overall than Loup and Cecil?


Thank god for OFSM
OFSM rosters are great but they don't change ratings so what is your point??
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:22 AM   #124
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OFSM rosters are great but they don't change ratings so what is your point??
This year they will be combining efforts with the hybrid roster crew so MLB edits.

But either way I expect Scherzer to be rated very highly relative to other SP's as he is one of the best pitchers in all of baseball, top 3 over the last 3 years, so he deserves to be rated as such in any roster IMO.
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Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Ratings - Top Rated Players For Each Team

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OFSM rosters are great but they don't change ratings so what is your point??


Yeah, they do.
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:26 AM   #126
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Yeah, they do.
Depends on the roster you use...the stock OSFM rosters do not. The hybrid rosters on the other hand do change the ratings.
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That's exactly what the aggressiveness rating is for, but it probably still doesn't completely express the nature of stealing...

... for example a sneaky base stealer who does not attempt a steal often but does so successfully when he does. It's easy to give him a very high BR Ability and low BR Aggressiveness, but BR Aggressiveness (to my knowledge) doesn't really affect user-controlled player.

So when such a player is user controlled, he can be turned into a prolific base stealer... which probably isn't ideal.

Who knows what BR Aggressiveness does to user-controlled runners, but if you take the in-game description of the attribute at its faith value, I think BR Ability tries to factor in this effect by reflecting the ability to steal repeatedly, even when the defense is alert.

A high BR Ability player can maintain a relatively high steal success rate even when he keeps stealing and when the defense is alert. A relatively low BR Ability player can occasionally attempt to steal successfully when the defense isn't expecting, but if he tries to many times, he won't steal successfully.

That's just my guess from the in-game description though.
I assume there isnt. But The Show usually has something for everyone. Is there a way to have runners attempt steal on the own? Without having base running set to auto?
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I would hope that base running ability only influences the jump and reaction time on pickoffs. The pitchers time to home/slide step and catchers throw ability should come into play as well. As well as the runners speed. If the game is balanced right, having a high base running ability alone should not make strealing bases over powered. Also slide stepping and throws over/pitch outs by the cpu should increase if you have a player that is running a lot.
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