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Old 03-05-2015, 02:01 PM   #217
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Old 03-05-2015, 02:18 PM   #218
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Old 03-05-2015, 02:31 PM   #219
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In a simulation are we not to expect a simulation of human error?

Don't we expect fielders to make errors? A computer wouldn't unless it was programmed to do so, but the game is trying to simulate a human being playing baseball. The game is programmed to simulate that human error, the accuracy of that simulation is up for debate of course, but the attempt is clear.

Similarly, the game is trying to simulate a human being umpiring a baseball game. It's a baby step, but it is in the right direction. Baseball is played and judged by humans. I want the human element to be included into the game including catcher framing, more missed calls on balls/strikes and even extending the strike zone further for some umpires. I'd go as far as to say I'd even want the "broadcast" simulation to be more humanistic (i.e. delays on camera cuts).
I do like the presentation aspect of the challenge system. But it doesn't bother me that the CPU can't challenge calls. Since there's a challenge system in real life, pretty much all calls (except balls and strikes) will end up being correct. IIRC, there's a variable balls and strikes option in The Show, which is realistic and I'll use. But since all other calls are now correct in the real MLB, there's no reason for Umps to blow calls in The Show except for the presentation of a challenge.

It's not the same as a fielder committing an error. Fielders commit errors all the time and it affects the game. When an Ump makes an incorrect call, it's now challenged and corrected. The only difference between The Show (if you don't have blown calls on) and the MLB in this situation is that it takes a minute or so in MLB to get the call right, when The Show can do it instantly.
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Old 03-05-2015, 03:09 PM   #220
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I do like the presentation aspect of the challenge system. But it doesn't bother me that the CPU can't challenge calls. Since there's a challenge system in real life, pretty much all calls (except balls and strikes) will end up being correct. IIRC, there's a variable balls and strikes option in The Show, which is realistic and I'll use. But since all other calls are now correct in the real MLB, there's no reason for Umps to blow calls in The Show except for the presentation of a challenge.

It's not the same as a fielder committing an error. Fielders commit errors all the time and it affects the game. When an Ump makes an incorrect call, it's now challenged and corrected. The only difference between The Show (if you don't have blown calls on) and the MLB in this situation is that it takes a minute or so in MLB to get the call right, when The Show can do it instantly.
It is purely presentational unless you don't pay attention to the replay. That is fine with me. I only want it to be simulated in game, it doesn't have to affect gameplay. Umpires blow calls in real life, I want to see that in game. But I also want to see it get corrected as they do in real life. I also want to see correct plays challenged as they do in real life. But in the end this can all be purely aesthetic.

Simulation isn't just gameplay, it is every element in the game, which is why errors fall into the "human" category for me. Along with everything from player personalities to fielder reaction time to a batter's stance. I want the humans in game to be simulated as best they can within the limitations of the game.

Anyways, the point is I agree, the challenge system in game is basically presentational, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be simulated as best it can. Umps should blow calls as the do in real life and then be challenged by both teams and corrected or validated in some way even just visually. Give people the option to turn it off in presentations or have it off when using fast play, but it's a big part of the MLB now.

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Is the stream at 8 tonight?
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Is the stream at 8 tonight?
I believe it was moved to next Tuesday.
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I believe it was moved to next Tuesday.

The stadium stream was moved to Tuesday but as far as we know there will still be a stream today.
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Is the stream at 8 tonight?
There is a stream at 8pm eastern tonight but it won't be the stadium stream. That one has been moved to Tuesday.
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