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[xicpanad]

Although I agree with that point (and believe me, I´ve seen the CPU passing the ball backward and even to the GK, but in very rare situations) we can also see the other details. They do count. To me, passing the ball backwards is realistic and essential in a soccer game, but also are fouls been called up for example. PES is garbage in that point. Thing is each one of us must decide what is worse, lack of back passing or lack of fouls? Lack of licenses or ugly player models? Etc... It actually depends on how we like those features or not.
Honestly, I don´t think its fair to call a game garbage because of details. PES is not perfect, nor Fifa, and they both have garbage points, and both have awesome points.

[J.C]

I agree. Though I hate the lack of fouls in Pes. Because they cause a problem (Though not as much) for the flow of the game just like Fifas attack attack attack dribble dribble dribble till we get a high percentage shot A.I.

I'd rather take the lack of fouls (which can and has been be patched in, in the past) You can't patch Fifas A.I approach play

A) It's the way the game is designed to play. too many things need tweeking. It's only something that can be reworked from the ground up with say a brand new Fifa 16

B) Because they never have improved it with NEW INSTALMENTS so even if they could with a patch, they're not going to since a patch would bring no profit, only losses)

So I could live with PES foul problem knowing that it can be easily fixed and I'm playing games that are varied.

I'm not saying Pes is perfect. infact it's pretty atrocious in parts. But atleast it TRY's and a lot of times PULLS off the game of football.

It's not just that. Custom tactics don't work. You can set shooting to 100 and the A.I will still ninja dribble and tika taka until it gets a high percentage shot in the box.

You can set pass distance to max to replicate a long ball team and they'll still do the above.

You know what as bad as the game is out of the box. If sliders and tactics had the dramatic effect they should. I could live with that. But as it is. the game is a bust and in no way reflects the pace flow and variety of an actual game of football.

In pes passing teams will retain the ball in a realistic manner and can switch to other distinct tactics. granted if you scratch the surface teams can retain possesion just for the sake of it. like if their 2-1 down with 5 minutes to go, and their passing the ball about in their own half while I'm camped in mine, breaking the illusion of an A.I with a purpose. But at least it trys to replicate the sport. atleast it shows progress from the dev team that they actuallyGET IT .. and that next year it can be refined.

EA. just churn out the same broken A.I with new flashy presentation and it's just so blatantly shallow to me. I give em credit for their shooting and keeper animations though.

Could you imagine a game with Fifas presentation and animations with PES's game play and editing. It would easily be the best sports game out. Thats including MLB The Show and NBA 2K.

But sadly it's a case of pick your poison. And game play wise Fifa has so much more inherently wrong with it and I can't see it improving any time soon, if ever.

[xicpanad]

Quote: Originally Posted by J.C

Could you imagine a game with Fifas presentation and animations with PES's game play and editing. It would easily be the best sports game out. Thats including MLB The Show and NBA 2K.

**** me!! that would just be the real deal!! Maybe that´s what pulls me into Fifa mostly, the shooting and GK´s just make the matches more enthusiastic? Still, I keep saying, I´m always getting back to PES despite all the things I´ve said. There´s something about it...

[Matt10]

Quote: Originally Posted by J.C

I agree. Though I hate the lack of fouls in Pes. Because they cause a problem (Though not as much) for the flow of the game just like Fifas attack attack attack dribble dribble dribble till we get a high percentage shot A.I. I'd rather take the lack of fouls (which can and has been be patched in, in the past) You can't patch Fifas A.I approach play A) It's the way the game is designed to play. too many things need tweeking. It's only something that can be reworked from the ground up with say a brand new Fifa 16 B) Because they never have improved it with NEW INSTALMENTS so even if they could with a patch, they're not going to since a patch would bring no profit, only losses) So I could live with PES foul problem knowing that it can be easily fixed and I'm playing games that are varied. I'm not saying Pes is perfect. infact it's pretty atrocious in parts. But atleast it TRY's and a lot of times PULLS off the game of football. It's not just that. Custom tactics don't work. You can set shooting to 100 and the A.I will still ninja dribble and tika taka until it gets a high percentage shot in the box. You can set pass distance to max to replicate a long ball team and they'll still do the above. You know what as bad as the game is out of the box. If sliders and tactics had the dramatic effect they should. I could live with that. But as it is. the game is a bust and in no way reflects the pace flow and variety of an actual game of football. In pes passing teams will retain the ball in a realistic manner and can switch to other distinct tactics. granted if you scratch the surface teams can retain possesion just for the sake of it. like if their 2-1 down with 5 minutes to go, and their passing the ball about in their own half while I'm camped in mine, breaking the illusion of an A.I with a purpose. But at least it trys to replicate the sport. atleast it shows progress from the dev team that they actuallyGET IT .. and that next year it can be refined. EA. just churn out the same broken A.I with new flashy presentation and it's just so blatantly shallow to me. I give em credit for their shooting and keeper animations though. Could you imagine a game with Fifas presentation and animations with PES's game play and editing. It would easily be the best sports game out. Thats including MLB The Show and NBA 2K. But sadly it's a case of pick your poison. And game play wise Fifa has so much more inherently wrong with it and I can't see it improving any time soon, if ever.

It is definitely a case of pick your poison with FIFA - always has been. Sliders do help though, but I'm pretty biased of course.

PES 15 just doesn't fit in the mold of real football, I'm sorry. Incessant backpasses and terrible lack of pressure throughout the pitch - it's not realistic whatsoever. I've played with it, and through some global stat adjusting you can get it to a decent point - but that's not something everyone can do.

At least with FIFA you can apply sliders, a universal tweak, and it can be used on all platforms. In PES, there is no adjustments you can make that affects all platforms - you are at the mercy of KONAMI and their decision making.

While I'm a big fan of sliders, I would love for FIFA to play out of the box more realistically - but I understand the business and what appeals to the majority. I'm glad they kept sliders in, and I hope they continue to do so, which is why it's important for people to take more value in their availability versus dismissing them and saying they have very little impact.

Watch any default sliders FIFA on youtube, it's terrible. Throw in some sliders form OS - and you've got a decent looking game of football - not perfect - but decent:

[KG]

Quote: Originally Posted by xicpanad

Although I agree with that point (and believe me, I´ve seen the CPU passing the ball backward and even to the GK, but in very rare situations) we can also see the other details. They do count. To me, passing the ball backwards is realistic and essential in a soccer game, but also are fouls been called up for example. PES is garbage in that point. Thing is each one of us must decide what is worse, lack of back passing or lack of fouls? Lack of licenses or ugly player models? Etc... It actually depends on how we like those features or not. Honestly, I don´t think its fair to call a game garbage because of details. PES is not perfect, nor Fifa, and they both have garbage points, and both have awesome points.

FIFA 15 just gets real repetitive to me. I've recently gone back to '14 just because you can get teams to play differently and if you're not playing in England you aren't missing anything presentation-wise.

[queensbomber]

Just picked his up for xb1 and I'm loving it. Being an MLS fan though I'd love to see more added for that league like better player likeness, stadiums, etc. Its definitely geared for the EPL which I started a new career with MCFC. Along with that I started an MLS career with the red bulls but ive seen that to get thefull effect of this game u need to play the EPL. awesome game oyherwise.

[CM_ADDICT]

Can anyone tell me if there is a complete list of player wages (weekly)???
This would make it easier when scouting and knowing who to buy and not to bother with.
Am doing Fulham career and would like to sign Oscar in Jan but need to know wages for him and others, I know I can just scout but having a database would be much easier.

[Keirik]

Oh FIFA you stay classy. Glad to see scripting is alive and well. I love it when I can take a shot, it'll deflect off a defender, start rolling towards the goal until a miracle slide comes along by the center back and he clears it, right up the pitch and to an awaiting midfielder for the quick counter. Stay classy FIFA, stay classy.