NHL Community Committee

[Simple Mathematics]

Bigwill... We have been silenced.

I like that idea of creating a poll on here. The title should be something like "To the OS members, who SHOULD have been selected to the Community Committee?" Who all should be on the poll? I can think of the following:

Bigwill
Simple Mathematics
mikeymayhem
Puckhead
AdamJones
MizzouRah
Bad Philanthropy
Cycloniac
Bwiggy

Anyone else? I'm really sorry if I missed you. Can't think of anymore off the top of my head.

[AdamJones113]

Quote: Originally Posted by Simple Mathematics

Bigwill... We have been silenced. I like that idea of creating a poll on here. The title should be something like "To the OS members, who SHOULD have been selected to the Community Committee?" Who all should be on the poll? I can think of the following: Bigwill Simple Mathematics mikeymayhem Puckhead AdamJones MizzouRah Bad Philanthropy Cycloniac Bwiggy Anyone else? I'm really sorry if I missed you. Can't think of anymore off the top of my head.

Forgot shogun.

If it's just our poll, with no meaning, I'll vote for three people (no offense to anyone who I don't vote for, I just think these three would give diverse and helpful feedback):

Bigwill33
Simple Mathematics
shogunofharlem3

I would have signed up for this but of course this has to be the year I'm not in Canada. Maybe if there's a gameplay committee next year I'd try to go for goalies.

[Cody_McCormick8]

Break this down of all the OS applicants based on their applications:
bigwill33-"what might best suit me....on-ice game play."
I thought the main focus for this committee was for EASHL. If this was a gameplay committee he is a slam dunk, however it clearly isn't.

SensFan101-"I feel like I would be most helpful in terms of the presentation of EASHL."
Hmm I don't think Presentation is focused on in the committee. Maybe if their wasn't a presentation team they would hire him.

Oohwayy-"In my opinion, 6 vs 6 in EASHL is as close as it gets to simulating a real life experience to the great game of hockey."
I couldn't find any fault with his application. I like that he knows 6v6 in EASHL is the real way to play. Congrats on being selected.

Simple Mathematics-"I feel that other members of our OS community would have more constructive input than I would. Diehard EASHL fans should be the ones considered here."
Pretty much saying "I don't have constructive input. Don't put me in the vote." Why apply then?

target audience 18-"NHL 15 revolutionized the way the game behaved."
It definitely revolutionized game sales.

actionhank-"I've never played EASHL, unfortunately."
LOL so why apply for the EASHL Committee.

Deanstupidhead-"My favourite part of EASHL is playing with my buddy as he is in another city. Nobody can cycle the puck like us, so because of this we hate playing EASHL. We don't like to play with any other people."
Bragging that he is good at 2s. What an accomplishment!

mikeymayhem-"I haven't spent a awful lot of time playing in the EASHL"
Once again it's a EASHL committee. He had a good chance of making through based on the people that applied.

snc237-"I would especially like to talk about is gameplay in relation to user interaction and A.I."
The focus isn't on gameplay...

Pezell04x-"I think I could really help in the gameplay aspect of the mode."
See above.

TNKNGM-"I don't play EASHL - I focus on franchise versus the CPU opponent with everything aimed towards realistic feel and stats."
YOU DONT PLAY EASHL? WHY APPLY THEN?

utp102-"I know there is an audience out there for some competitive 6v6 hockey."
Recognizes that there is lots of people who want to play competitive 6's. Congrats.

bwiggy33-" I haven't played EASHL much the past few years. I would like to directly influence the AI and Be A GM."
EASHL committee

TacTixHD-"The part of the mode I would like to directly influence is the customization in EASHL."
Hard to find anything wrong with his application other then he wanted to focus on EASHL customization which I dont view as a high priority.

Calgaryflames82-"The game modes I would like to have influence over is GM mode and Be a Pro (or live the life)."


tbayjordan-"I haven't played much EASHL"
No comment.

drog1602-Not enough detail to quote anything.
If he had some more detail in his application he might of had a chance.

FBeaule04-"I would like to have a say on AI and the way the game plays overall."
Gameplay

Basically Oohwayy and utp102 were the best candidates. The community did well voting them in. TacTixHD wouldn't have been a bad candidate either. I like the selections made.

[AdamJones113]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cody_McCormick8

Break this down of all the OS applicants based on their applications: bigwill33-"what might best suit me....on-ice game play." I thought the main focus for this committee was for EASHL. If this was a gameplay committee he is a slam dunk, however it clearly isn't. SensFan101-"I feel like I would be most helpful in terms of the presentation of EASHL." Hmm I don't think Presentation is focused on in the committee. Maybe if their wasn't a presentation team they would hire him. Oohwayy-"In my opinion, 6 vs 6 in EASHL is as close as it gets to simulating a real life experience to the great game of hockey." I couldn't find any fault with his application. I like that he knows 6v6 in EASHL is the real way to play. Congrats on being selected. Simple Mathematics-"I feel that other members of our OS community would have more constructive input than I would. Diehard EASHL fans should be the ones considered here." Pretty much saying "I don't have constructive input. Don't put me in the vote." Why apply then? target audience 18-"NHL 15 revolutionized the way the game behaved." It definitely revolutionized game sales. actionhank-"I've never played EASHL, unfortunately." LOL so why apply for the EASHL Committee. Deanstupidhead-"My favourite part of EASHL is playing with my buddy as he is in another city. Nobody can cycle the puck like us, so because of this we hate playing EASHL. We don't like to play with any other people." Bragging that he is good at 2s. What an accomplishment! mikeymayhem-"I haven't spent a awful lot of time playing in the EASHL" Once again it's a EASHL committee. He had a good chance of making through based on the people that applied. snc237-"I would especially like to talk about is gameplay in relation to user interaction and A.I." The focus isn't on gameplay... Pezell04x-"I think I could really help in the gameplay aspect of the mode." See above. TNKNGM-"I don't play EASHL - I focus on franchise versus the CPU opponent with everything aimed towards realistic feel and stats." YOU DONT PLAY EASHL? WHY APPLY THEN? utp102-"I know there is an audience out there for some competitive 6v6 hockey." Recognizes that there is lots of people who want to play competitive 6's. Congrats. bwiggy33-" I haven't played EASHL much the past few years. I would like to directly influence the AI and Be A GM." EASHL committee TacTixHD-"The part of the mode I would like to directly influence is the customization in EASHL." Hard to find anything wrong with his application other then he wanted to focus on EASHL customization which I dont view as a high priority. Calgaryflames82-"The game modes I would like to have influence over is GM mode and Be a Pro (or live the life)." tbayjordan-"I haven't played much EASHL" No comment. drog1602-Not enough detail to quote anything. If he had some more detail in his application he might of had a chance. FBeaule04-"I would like to have a say on AI and the way the game plays overall." Gameplay Basically Oohwayy and utp102 were the best candidates. The community did well voting them in. TacTixHD wouldn't have been a bad candidate either. I like the selections made.

I may be speaking for myself, but I don't know a single OSer who voted for the winners. As I said, their points may have merit but—as OS was already getting the short end of the stick with half the winners the EA Forums got—I think I may have wanted someone who really represents the community and hasn't just one post on the site.

Maybe I'm complaining too much; other people definitely thought their applications were the best. That's what I love about OS, you can express your opinion.

[Cletus]

I think this puts the final nail in the coffin for any hopes posters had for this series. They just don't listen to OS on anything. All the years of detailed posts, wishlists, CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, scientific breakdown, etc. They don't care. So 2 guys with an overall of 0 and another one who joined around the same time are the best choices for this? Fiddy or Bigwill don't play enough EASHL to be considered? Instead it's the same old youtube guys.

I guess the vote was just to get people on a positive note about the game next year. What happens when there's minimal changes and the latest mode is "coach" mode where you're watching a full game that doesn't call penalties correctly, pucks still going through sticks, levitating goalies and no neutral zone pressure.

It's sad but I'm really enjoying this years game. Even when my 2 defenseman chase the puck behind the net and the AI leaves a guy wide open back door because my forwards are all still on the point.

[Cletus]

I'm sure it is going to get deleted, but here's what I posted on the EA forums under the topic.


AFAIK, there's only 4 hardcore EASHL guys on OS. 2 didn't apply, but guys that don't post at OS apply and win? How was that even fair? I'd rather no one from OS goes than some guys who have a dozen posts win. That's just insulting to the community at OS on top of all the times our well thought out wishlists and gameplay concerns get ignored. But we get new HUT cards, we get pucks flying 20 feet in the air and another year of no neutral zone pressure. We're all adults on OS and if no one met your criteria just say that instead of sending 2 guys that might not have made it if they didn't apply at OS. Then again communication and EA Canada seem mutually exclusive.

[Simple Mathematics]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cody_McCormick8

Break this down of all the OS applicants based on their applications: bigwill33-"what might best suit me....on-ice game play." I thought the main focus for this committee was for EASHL. If this was a gameplay committee he is a slam dunk, however it clearly isn't. SensFan101-"I feel like I would be most helpful in terms of the presentation of EASHL." Hmm I don't think Presentation is focused on in the committee. Maybe if their wasn't a presentation team they would hire him. Oohwayy-"In my opinion, 6 vs 6 in EASHL is as close as it gets to simulating a real life experience to the great game of hockey." I couldn't find any fault with his application. I like that he knows 6v6 in EASHL is the real way to play. Congrats on being selected. Simple Mathematics-"I feel that other members of our OS community would have more constructive input than I would. Diehard EASHL fans should be the ones considered here." Pretty much saying "I don't have constructive input. Don't put me in the vote." Why apply then? target audience 18-"NHL 15 revolutionized the way the game behaved." It definitely revolutionized game sales. actionhank-"I've never played EASHL, unfortunately." LOL so why apply for the EASHL Committee. Deanstupidhead-"My favourite part of EASHL is playing with my buddy as he is in another city. Nobody can cycle the puck like us, so because of this we hate playing EASHL. We don't like to play with any other people." Bragging that he is good at 2s. What an accomplishment! mikeymayhem-"I haven't spent a awful lot of time playing in the EASHL" Once again it's a EASHL committee. He had a good chance of making through based on the people that applied. snc237-"I would especially like to talk about is gameplay in relation to user interaction and A.I." The focus isn't on gameplay... Pezell04x-"I think I could really help in the gameplay aspect of the mode." See above. TNKNGM-"I don't play EASHL - I focus on franchise versus the CPU opponent with everything aimed towards realistic feel and stats." YOU DONT PLAY EASHL? WHY APPLY THEN? utp102-"I know there is an audience out there for some competitive 6v6 hockey." Recognizes that there is lots of people who want to play competitive 6's. Congrats. bwiggy33-" I haven't played EASHL much the past few years. I would like to directly influence the AI and Be A GM." EASHL committee TacTixHD-"The part of the mode I would like to directly influence is the customization in EASHL." Hard to find anything wrong with his application other then he wanted to focus on EASHL customization which I dont view as a high priority. Calgaryflames82-"The game modes I would like to have influence over is GM mode and Be a Pro (or live the life)." tbayjordan-"I haven't played much EASHL" No comment. drog1602-Not enough detail to quote anything. If he had some more detail in his application he might of had a chance. FBeaule04-"I would like to have a say on AI and the way the game plays overall." Gameplay Basically Oohwayy and utp102 were the best candidates. The community did well voting them in. TacTixHD wouldn't have been a bad candidate either. I like the selections made.

I didn't apply. I just don't like that people who are actually in our community aren't going to be represented. The reason I was put on EA's poll is probably because everyone "liked" my response and people kept saying they want Bigwill and a Revamped guy. I took this as a huge compliment from the OS community and a sign that they appreciate my and the revamped team's work.

I just feel bad for the OS community that we won't be represented well. And like I said in my response, if there is a meeting about rosters or BaGM, I would love to be a part of it.

[bigwill33]

Wow. Just wow.

First off, before I get into anything here I want to really take a moment and say thank you to everyone on here that thought of me and supported me for this. It does mean a lot that you guys think so highly of myself. I'm not a roster guy or ratings guy, and I am not even really an offline guy. The main reason I thought I would be a good consideration is because I am primarily a club and OTP guy. Logging well over 1000 online games each and every year since the feature was introduced.

That being said, I am not upset that I wasn't chosen. I felt that any one here could have done a pretty good job if they had the opportunity to do so. The biggest thing for me was that OS was going to get to be a voice and really have a chance to make a difference finally. I was excited to be able to let whoever got to go what I felt was needed to start turning this franchise around for the better.

But that really didn't happen as we all know. Nothing against the guys that were chosen because they may be great choices, but we truly have no idea what they are about because they are not a part of our community. It seems as though they joined here specifically for this and with their youtube following were able to get the votes. Smart move on their part and we really can't begrudge them for doing so.

However, what stinks for the rest of us is that now we at OS once again had promises made and something dangled under our noses. We followed and obliged only to get the rawest of deals, yet again.

And there-in lies exactly what is wrong with EA and the NHL team there. I sat back for weeks and watched after this thread was first made. I wanted to see how much follow-up and communication we would have from EA in regards to specifics on this. As usual there was nothing. We had the original post on 11/04 stating the first event would be held in "late November". And we didn't hear another peep until 11/21. Which, in my mind, pretty much is late November. At that time the the "official voting" started. And it wasn't in-house as probably many of expected, but was off-site and with little fanfare or mention of it here at OS.

Now I don't know about the rest of you, but I didn't expect to win. However, seeing how many people liked my entry and how many posters here were mentioning my name I felt that it might be a good idea to perhaps start looking into it. So I did my due diligence and started letting people know that I may have to leave town for a few days. Not sure if EA realizes it, but flying half way across North America on a moment's notice isn't idea for a lot of working people, or family people, or students... or anyone with a life. Not to mention during the holiday season. So bringing this up to bosses and family is kind of a big deal. Securing a passport for an international flight is also a big deal for some and is something that cannot simply be done in a few weeks.

Bottom line, this was handled very poorly, in my opinion. And it doesn't take a trip to Vancouver to say this; This post and its implementation is representative of exactly everything that is currently wrong with EA Vancouver in regards to the NHL series. The poor communication (even changing the date to December with little notice or mention). The lackluster development and organization of the event and program itself. And the horrible implementation of how it all went down with allowing outsiders to come in and take what was being offered to this close knit community. All of this leaves very sour tastes in many of our mouths and is a reflection of your company as a whole. It is almost what we have come to expect and what some of us were actually hoping we could hope to change with a program such as this.

As I already stated, I am not angered or upset in not being the one chosen. I am just downtrodden for this community that it will not have a true voice in the matter. Not a liaison to work between us and the team producing our most beloved of games. And none of this would have really even been a thought in our minds had this post and position not been promised to us, the COMMUNITY at Operation Sports.