In PES 2015, The Old Magic is Back on the Pitch (XB1/PS4 Review)

[LingeringRegime]

I got two new games today.

But, PES 2015 is better than both games.

[KG]

Quote: Originally Posted by nunogomes

How can FIFA get a 9 score and PES a 8 ? It´s baffling...

Quote: Originally Posted by ronnieb

Co sign,fifa's 9 Is a joke, i mean com n the gameplay should have the main impact in graduation, and the PES gameplay Is just better at everything...

Quote: Originally Posted by Battman

As I see OS as my prime source for serious sports gamers I have to say that I am baffled that FIFA got a better score. Other sources are all about the shiny polish, OS is for the core game. And in this area PES excells FIFA by miles.

Keep in mind this review was/is for the PS4/XB1 so things like no option files, 5 less stadiums than current gen, the inability to use patches like SweetFX, etc... hurt the game.

Gameplay was the main positive about PES but it's about the total package, Online, Career Modes, Editing, etc...

PES is probably neck & neck with NBA2K when it comes to online stability, maybe worse since many users, myself included, have to jump off the internet to avoid the dreaded "Establish Connection" prompt that can sometimes freeze a game.

Master League & BAL Career Modes are stale and in-some areas, worse than years past. ML at a time was innovative. It had Youth Squads, in-depth stats, awards, etc... all before FIFA's Manager Mode. The reality is that Konami have done very little with it over the last few years. For offline players, it's a huge blow having this GREAT gameplay but a stale career mode. At some point, the off-the-pitch experience needs to rival the on-the-pitch experience.

And while Microsoft & Sony can take some of the blame regarding not allowing option file transfers the fact that Konami removed the pixel editor for jerseys on the NG systems is huge. The ability to create generic stadiums?.....gone.

I love the gameplay and can't wait til play it after my lil one goes to sleep but I believe an 8 (which is considered a Great game by the new scoring methodology) is fair considering the challenges. Now, I'll revisit it after it receives the patches to address fouls & stamina as well as the December DLC update.

[ty5oke]

Great points KG and spot on with my thoughts. Really hope with how great the gameplay is that they can make some improvements with ML going forward but unfortunately there are no micro-transactions for ML and fear it will be left behind with myClub.

[LingeringRegime]

Only thing I don't like about the game at this point is there is no option for CPU vs CPU matches. Have no idea why not.


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[KG]

Quote: Originally Posted by LingeringRegime

Only thing I don't like about the game at this point is there is no option for CPU vs CPU matches. Have no idea why not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah, I went looking for that today to no avail. Used to love setting up CPU vs CPU on Live Broadcast while I'm doing some work.

[ronnieb]

Quote: Originally Posted by KG

Keep in mind this review was/is for the PS4/XB1 so things like no option files, 5 less stadiums than current gen, the inability to use patches like SweetFX, etc... hurt the game. Gameplay was the main positive about PES but it's about the total package, Online, Career Modes, Editing, etc... PES is probably neck & neck with NBA2K when it comes to online stability, maybe worse since many users, myself included, have to jump off the internet to avoid the dreaded "Establish Connection" prompt that can sometimes freeze a game. Master League & BAL Career Modes are stale and in-some areas, worse than years past. ML at a time was innovative. It had Youth Squads, in-depth stats, awards, etc... all before FIFA's Manager Mode. The reality is that Konami have done very little with it over the last few years. For offline players, it's a huge blow having this GREAT gameplay but a stale career mode. At some point, the off-the-pitch experience needs to rival the on-the-pitch experience. And while Microsoft & Sony can take some of the blame regarding not allowing option file transfers the fact that Konami removed the pixel editor for jerseys on the NG systems is huge. The ability to create generic stadiums?.....gone. I love the gameplay and can't wait til play it after my lil one goes to sleep but I believe an 8 (which is considered a Great game by the new scoring methodology) is fair considering the challenges. Now, I'll revisit it after it receives the patches to address fouls & stamina as well as the December DLC update.

Ok i get all your points and i agree
so let me formulate differentlty how FIFA 15 is a 9 ? that s just not so OS
the gameplay is really poor, my point is there's no way a game get a 9 if the gameplay is not AAA especially here.
i think both game should be around 8 .
FIFA 7.5 PES 8
By the way it s just crazy how PES could progress in years to come while i don t see fifa going nowwhere
soory for the poor english

[fearwhatnow]

Quote: Originally Posted by ronnieb

Ok i get all your points and i agree so let me formulate differentlty how FIFA 15 is a 9 ? that s just not so OS the gameplay is really poor, my point is there's no way a game get a 9 if the gameplay is not AAA especially here. i think both game should be around 8 . FIFA 7.5 PES 8 By the way it s just crazy how PES could progress in years to come while i don t see fifa going nowwhere soory for the poor english

As long as FIFA consumers buy the game especially for the atrocious thing called FUT and go in real money microtransactions, the game will never progress gameplay wise.
I see that FIFA 15 is PEGI 3+. This means that many people under 18 participate in a somewhat gambling game with real money. I haven't seen any particular disclaimer for FUT and I'm curious how EA distinguishes the use of credit cards by children inside this mode. It really looks too shady for me.

[KG]

Quote: Originally Posted by fearwhatnow

As long as FIFA consumers buy the game especially for the atrocious thing called FUT and go in real money microtransactions, the game will never progress gameplay wise. I see that FIFA 15 is PEGI 3+. This means that many people under 18 participate in a somewhat gambling game with real money. I haven't seen any particular disclaimer for FUT and I'm curious how EA distinguishes the use of credit cards by children inside this mode. It really looks too shady for me.

Read an interesting take on modes like FUT yesterday that said EA is/might look at stripping the mode out of the regular game and offer it as a free stand-alone game to maximize access. The thought behind it is of course $ and that the $60 price tag might be a barrier to more earnings if they offered it for free.