Dude, perfectly said. I won't buy Madden nor Live because I'm more into 2k since NFL2K Dcast. I can see myself being biased had the roles reversed. With the case of madden, that's force feeding and I can't get used to the play style and can come up with a million things wrong with it, I have no choice, so I don't buy. With the Nba it started with 2k11 and after playing that, that was enough to wipe the competition. Clearly out. Even with whatever cons the game was perfect to me, and even with all the iterations I still feel that they truly have brought sports games to the next level, even without competition, they redone the graphics ground up on next gen when everyone else sold you optimized ports of the last gen, ea would have never done anything for you if it wasn't for benchmarks set by 2k