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Old 10-08-2014, 02:03 PM   #393
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This is the default response from Madden apologists when EA fails to deliver. It’s white noise.

Specifically (and I’ll say it again):

OS is not a super-secret site tucked away in the far reaches of the www where only the hardest of the hardcore players reside…and of who are the only ones rigorously playing Madden and discovering all of the bugs while the rest of the community ignorantly walks around like its 1995 discovering what the internet is—hence, making OS “the minority”.

It’s 2014. If people aren’t at home on their PC’s, they’re carrying around devices in their pockets that keep them connected 24/7. And as time permits they check on sites that revolve around their interests. For Madden, OS may or may not be one of them. But people are connected all over and Madden’s shortcomings are not some major secret whispered among the hallowed halls of OS because “only the hardcore reside here and are the only ones who care”. It’s a myth to suggest otherwise.

If people here are finding these things, discussing them, and reaching out the developers, there are likely others as well regardless of whether they’re registered here or not. It’s fascinating to me how the impact of this site on the developers and/or the community seems to grow or shrink with the apologist depending on the argument they’re making at the time.

EA has metrics. I have no doubt their metrics told them sacks weren’t an issue user vs. user. I find it hard to believe their metrics showed them sacks weren’t an issue user vs. cpu. This disbelief is reinforced by the fact they at first they say “we didn’t find an issue”, then “well, it’s too big for a patch”. They’re dancing.

EA failed to deliver on some significant issues and they’re taking heat for it—rightly so. This after waiting and the community told to “be patient, the patch is coming”. Attempting a defense of EA by inserting the whole “casual vs. hardcore” suggestion now is nonsense.
And this is the default argument of dev bashers. Go look at the 2K forum. Same thing.

Look at the sales numbers. Look at the number of people on the boards. There is a HUGE disparity. And just because people seem to think the squeaky wheel gets the grease these days, that isn't how business works.

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Old 10-08-2014, 02:05 PM   #394
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Yeah I see now. Thank you. I'm testing a both new and my current CFM. I'm getting mixed results on the stats.

I might be crazy, but it feels like the patch might affect my current CFM. The QB TD-INT ratios aren't as weird when I sim to the Super Bowl.
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Old 10-08-2014, 02:15 PM   #395
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"- Addressed issue where the formation name would not update during no huddle situations" can confirm this is still in the game.
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Old 10-08-2014, 02:37 PM   #396
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Just noticed the way Brady leans over when taking a snap from his center. I don't recall if it looked like that before this patch. Could that be an update to the QB sigs or was I just not paying attention before?
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Old 10-08-2014, 02:48 PM   #397
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Just noticed the way Brady leans over when taking a snap from his center. I don't recall if it looked like that before this patch. Could that be an update to the QB sigs or was I just not paying attention before?


I believe the sigs was just way they throw but even on that note peyton mannings motions in his sig don't look nothing like the ones in game so even though they said they fixed them me and few others think they didn't there's even video of both in game and player edit sig.
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Old 10-08-2014, 02:59 PM   #398
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And this is the default argument of dev bashers. Go look at the 2K forum. Same thing.

Look at the sales numbers. Look at the number of people on the boards. There is a HUGE disparity. And just because people seem to think the squeaky wheel gets the grease these days, that isn't how business works.

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Please, that’s the counter? A “right back at you” with the default response? As much as you would like to believe otherwise, sites like these don’t exist in a vacuum. Moreover, the disparity between Madden sales numbers and registered users at OS or any other site don’t mean a damn thing—it’s irrelevant to this patch.

But again, there’s your implication that only the hardcore people who care ever register for a Madden site much less visit one. Since you seem to be one who “knows how business works” then I’m sure you’re aware there are plenty of businesses who accommodate ‘squeaky wheels’ or else their business won’t ‘work’ for long, period.

Look, I wouldn’t be surprised if you have a vested interest in having EA’s back at every turn. But there’s wisdom in picking your spots and this isn’t one of them. After the overwhelming negative response to unaddressed issues from a patch that was long in coming and hands were slapped for not being patient and giving EA the benefit of doubt, to try and deflect this into a ‘casual vs. hardcore’ argument is simply white noise and carries no weight whatsoever. EA failed to deliver with this patch. There’s no upside to defending it.

Or is there?

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Old 10-08-2014, 03:35 PM   #399
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*sigh*

Please, that’s the counter-argument? A “right back at you” with the default response? As much as you would like to believe otherwise, sites like these don’t exist in a vacuum. Moreover, the disparity between Madden sales numbers and registered users at OS or any other site don’t mean a damn thing—it’s irrelevant to this patch.

But again, there’s your implication that only the hardcore people who care ever register for a Madden site much less visit one. Since you seem to be one who “knows how business works” then I’m sure you’re aware there are plenty of businesses who accommodate ‘squeaky wheels’ or else their business won’t ‘work’ for long, period.

Look, I wouldn’t be surprised if you have a vested interest in having EA’s back at every turn. But there’s wisdom in picking your spots and this isn’t one of them. After the overwhelming negative response to unaddressed issues from a patch that was long in coming and hands were slapped for not being patient and giving EA the benefit of doubt, to try and deflect this into a ‘casual vs. hardcore’ argument is simply white noise and carries no weight whatsoever. EA failed to deliver with this patch. There’s no upside to defending it.

Or is there?
I really think he is trying to explain to you that there are a ton of Madden players....outside of OS (and far more than the consistent voices posting here) that are having a blast, love the game and are fine with it. It's just here in our community...the overwhelming majority (at least the vocal majority) are disgusted with the game, EA and the patch.

His point is.....the vocal majority here is a crumb of the overhwhemling satisfied players of the game around the country.
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I really think he is trying to explain to you that there are a ton of Madden players....outside of OS (and far more than the consistent voices posting here) that are having a blast, love the game and are fine with it. It's just here in our community...the overwhelming majority (at least the vocal majority) are disgusted with the game, EA and the patch.

His point is.....the vocal majority here is a crumb of the overhwhemling satisfied players of the game around the country.

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