NBA Live 15 Fans Getting the Short End of the Stick

[WTF]

I enjoyed a lot about it after the updates. Some stuff I still didn't care for. There were several well respected guys around here that enjoyed parts of the game post patch.

[ThreeKing]

Just my own opinion, but I think it stinks you have become an EA GameChanger.

I really trusted your unbiased opinion on this game and the other game. I hope I'm not out of line, but I feel that we've now maybe lost that. We need more guys like you around here to give an honest, true opinion on these games.

I also echo what others have said, but I won't beat that horse.

For me to purchase this game and give it a legit chance, I would need a TON of credible OS'ers to really praise the heck out of this title. That's where I'm at as a consumer with them.

[bballshawn24]

Quote: Originally Posted by ThreeKing

Just my own opinion, but I think it stinks you have become an EA GameChanger. I really trusted your unbiased opinion on this game and the other game. I hope I'm not out of line, but I feel that we've now maybe lost that. We need more guys like you around here to give an honest, true opinion on these games. I also echo what others have said, but I won't beat that horse. For me to purchase this game and give it a legit chance, I would need a TON of credible OS'ers to really praise the heck out of this title. That's where I'm at as a consumer with them.

why cant you just look at gameplay videos and play the demo?

[ThreeKing]

Quote: Originally Posted by bballshawn24

why cant you just look at gameplay videos and play the demo?

Because of their history, or lack there of, I'd need more than that.

I suppose GameFly is an option, but I really don't feel like signing up for just one game.

[DonWuan]

The day I rely on another man opinion is the day I stop gaming. Both games were trash and live was worse. Live 14 had some positives and a lot of cons. Live 14 with sliders would have been decent.

All that said with a full game demo dropping.

[bateman11]

Truth of matter is Live 14 is a solid foundation. The game does a lot of the core fundamentals of basketball extremely well. But it's just too basic. Needs a little more flare, attitude, and fluidity to reach the next level. Thats what I'm hoping for in 15.

I'll admit as well, this game isn't quite as far back from the competition as it may seem. Some of us who actually gave 14 a chance and played the hell out of it, despite its lack of quality, saw promise in the game. I've also did the same with the competition's first iteration on the new systems, and honestly wasn't impressed. Step back from current gen gameplay wise.

I will be visiting the forums more post release and giving honest insight with the game to help anyone who might be on the fence. IF the game lives up to my personal expectation of course.

[WTF]

Quote: Originally Posted by ThreeKing

Just my own opinion, but I think it stinks you have become an EA GameChanger.I really trusted your unbiased opinion on this game and the other game. I hope I'm not out of line, but I feel that we've now maybe lost that. We need more guys like you around here to give an honest, true opinion on these games. I also echo what others have said, but I won't beat that horse. For me to purchase this game and give it a legit chance, I would need a TON of credible OS'ers to really praise the heck out of this title. That's where I'm at as a consumer with them.

No need to doubt that I'll bring an unbiased opinion to the game regardless. I gave an unbiased opinion last year, even though I continually got hammered for it. Trust be told, it would have been quite a bit easier to hold my tongue and not enjoy Live 14. Instead, I saw a lot of positives that I personally look for. After I stated my opinion, several others gave it a try, and most of them saw the same things.

Being a Game Changer isn't a "yes man" type of role anymore. It's providing constructive feedback to the development team, being a liaison between the community and the guys working towards making the game a better playing game.

That's one of the biggest reasons that I personally want guys to try the demo, try the full game. If you love it, awesome. If you don't, then be constructive and articulate what you like, what you don't, how you'd fix the things that you don't. I can help get these things in front of the right people. I'm doing the same thing that I've done for the past 12-13 years, dating back to Mike Wang at Inside Drive. I'd compile a huge list of items, and send them over to him post release. Things that I wanted to change, things that I thought could be tweaked, etc. I did the same for Rob Jones at 2k early on.

Like DonWuan said, don't try games based on one guys opinion. With demo's, trials, etc, then try it yourself and see if it fits the bill.

[WTF]

Quote: Originally Posted by bateman11

Truth of matter is Live 14 is a solid foundation. The game does a lot of the core fundamentals of basketball extremely well. But it's just too basic. Needs a little more flare, attitude, and fluidity to reach the next level. Thats what I'm hoping for in 15. I'll admit as well, this game isn't quite as far back from the competition as it may seem. Some of us who actually gave 14 a chance and played the hell out of it, despite its lack of quality, saw promise in the game. I've also did the same with the competition's first iteration on the new systems, and honestly wasn't impressed. Step back from current gen gameplay wise. I will be visiting the forums more post release and giving honest insight with the game to help anyone who might be on the fence. IF the game lives up to my personal expectation of course.

This is what I saw, that made me want to help push the rest of the title in the right direction.

Well said bateman11.