NBA Live 15 Fans Getting the Short End of the Stick

[Haval93]

I will say that there has been a huge drop on communication ever since the Elite 11 fiasco. As for Live 15, we have some game play information in regards on how they improved animations, improving visuals, and making the game better with going back to features that made Live 10 a good game.

With that said, I don't agree with their marketing approach ever since Live 13 info or lack of info? Too many hype words and not enough substance for fans and the casual gamer to want to play the game. Yes, the #nothingbutNext might appeal to fanboys, but it won't matter to the average gamer. They can continue to do a thousands open letters if they are content, but it won't help, it will just hurt the series. Stop with the excuses about the lack of development time, broken team, and so on. This is the biggest publisher in the world and average gamers don't want to hear it especially since most of them see EA as a bad company. Most fans around the web are surprised that EA is still making a basketball game and only know about the disasters of the series and none of the fun times that past games like Live 05 brought many gamers.

So what can they do to fix it.

First stop with the open-letters, I know fans likes hearing and seeing developer interactions about the development cycle but if the result is trashing last years game in an effort to promote the next years game, why would anybody be excited? Fans will feel betrayed as they do now and feel that Live 15 will be measured as another beta test for EA. So stop this. If the NBA Live team is so content on talking about improvements, go the NBA Live 10 route, by showing direct video comparisons of the two games so fans can actually see changes rather than take their word for it. I will stay that the two graphic videos they released did this extremely well and got fans and non-fans curious about the game.

Second stop with the humble approach and comparisons to the up and coming teams, it sounds dumb and makes fans weary. Why the in the world would an average gamer want to buy a game from a team of developers who don't sound confident and compare themselves to a losing team or game. You might not have a better game than NBA 2K, but already admitting defeat is horrible and throws fans away from the series. No one wants to spend 60 dollars on a game that is years away. Whoever said this was a good idea needs to re-evaluate this because it's horrible. What triple-A game do you know that does this? Does Uncharted, Halo, or COD tell fans that this years game is a work in the progress for a game that might be great in a couple of years? No, NBA 2K marketing for all their mishaps attacks this point greatly, they keep attention on their current product, not one year or "three years down the line".

Thirdly. This is a summary of my last two points. Stop with the three year plan announcements for dear god. Why would I want to buy year one or two's product when I can just come back next year, you have just lost two potential years of sales. If the game is a three year plan, keep it internal with the team and discuss with yourselves where you guys making the game see it going in the future.

Sorry for the novel but man it seems that I and others have been posting this exact same post since Live 06 on last generation. Before any fan boys attacks my post , I buy both games ever year and have done so for a long time. Myself and the members of OS want the game to succeed and to go back to the glory days. We want two great NBA games to play because everybody wins, both EA and 2K make a good number of sales and the fans get two great games to play.

[La Verite]

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Quote: Originally Posted by La Verite

I mean really? The game comes out October 7th. I'm satisfied with the info I've received. 2k15 hasn't given any info on my player features let alone the The Park. It's so easy to jump on Live now. Where the passion for a screwed up M15 Disconnected Franchise? Such a cliché article to get people to pile on. Be patient and we will see. So sick of this instant generation. It's not like we can play it now anyways. 2k15 advertising bootleg videos of people who can't play the game and we applause that and say "see 2K15 is winning, yeah." Seriously tho I'm anxious and excited for this game too, no gameplay doesn't mean they failed. I don't get a free 10% discount card from EA or 2k so sigh if u think I work for EA. I'm getting both games anyways. 2 fingers saying peace[/QUOT Instant generation? I'm not picking on you, but you really should have thought this out before you posted this. We have waited for a solid game from the Live team since 2010. The last solid game from them in my opinion was Live 10. The Elite 11 debacle and cancellation, No Live 12 release, Live 13 cancellation after footage was leaked of poor gameplay, and a subpar next-gen installment in Live 14. If anything supporters have been very patient with them, but their get out of jail free card has run out now.

You know this is all about instant. Graphics was horrible last year so you get that upgrade and it still wasn't enough, for some. Just read that a trailer is coming out anyways, this week. So they still have their plan.

[Ajknowsit]

Quote: Originally Posted by sega2k

Isn't the saying, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"..What fool me are we on now?

Lol, very true but we don't need another madden situation, we need live to push 2k. Thats why I hold out hope for live.

[nick_sr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Live2K

Supposed fiasco. It didn't lead to the demise of a trailer, a demo, a game or a company. Same goes for this year. If you guys want to focus on the lies I would start with the features they promised in 14 like hourly synergy, updated songs etc. This article is just adding to the atmosphere here of bash live at any and every chance.

i'm not a graphics guy so the promised updates were my biggest disappointment from last year. sure hope the tools are tested and ready to go on october 7th.

[WTF]

I'm glad to see some civil discussion sans a few comments though.

Regardless of whether or not you buy at release, or you want to see more gameplay footage, I have plans to stream quite a bit for the first week or two after release.

So you all will have plenty of opportunities to see actual gameplay prior to deciding on whether to buy or not.

[The 24th Letter]

Quote: Originally Posted by Live2K

Supposed fiasco. It didn't lead to the demise of a trailer, a demo, a game or a company. Same goes for this year. If you guys want to focus on the lies I would start with the features they promised in 14 like hourly synergy, updated songs etc. This article is just adding to the atmosphere here of bash live at any and every chance.

Spamming at this point...

[ruggedrum]

At this point in time and in this day and age, showing me screenshots of arena's just isn't to satisfying. It is time to put up some game play footage and I'm not talking about random up close footage neither. I'm talking real game play, I want to see the intro, I want to see some drives to the lane some fouls some dunks some crossovers something, enough of the arena screenshots. Haven't the faithful who have followed you and fended off numerous 2k haters year after year after year...haven't they we who have supported you with our hearts blood sweat and tears earned the right to at least see some game play clips by now. I mean Madden is amazing and so are NHL and UFC, so Live has to be official this year. Stop playing with our emotions and put the game play out there or do what Beyonce did and just drop a demo without any notice, you said you are going to put the demo out earlier then normal this year how about now, how about a demo drop for all to play before we get a game play clip if you are not going to give us game play clips.. EA you owe us the few that have had your back through the next Gen disasters of futures past...C'MON EA Sean O'Brien this one is for you sir..PLEASE SHOW ME SOMETHING!!!!!!!

[sega2k]

Do you guys think we're getting a sizzle trailer next week similar to the Yakkem trailer. Or do you think we're going to see some 5 vs. 5 gameplay? I personally think they have to show us 5 vs. 5, it's a little too late to be teasing 1-2 min sizzle trailers.