Madden NFL 15: The Ten Best QBs

[Haze88]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sheba2011

The problem is the talent in Dallas has never been spread among the whole team, they have a few great players on each side of the ball and then a complete drop off for the rest of the team. Not to mention they haven't had an actual coach in a long time, what they have is yes men who Jerry can control like puppets. Dallas had nothing to do with the Pats losing in 2007 lol.

They have had good coaches, Bill Parcells and Sean Payton among others have been on their staff but Jerry is way to hands-on with the football operations, but they still should have managed more than 1 playoff win under Romo if he's that good. Peyton, Brady, and Brees do more with less yearly. They beat NY and we don't see them in that SB

[Haze88]

Quote: Originally Posted by criscarter

The game has changed a lot since Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer won their Super Bowls.

Not really. Compare Seattle to the Baltimore and Tampa Bay teams and there are a lot of similarities. Dominant D, strong run game, no pressure on the QB to win games. The only difference is offense is encouraged though rules changes but the better defense still wins yearly
Edit:Sorry for the double post, used the wrong quote features

[Sheba2011]

Quote: Originally Posted by Haze88

They have had good coaches, Bill Parcells and Sean Payton among others have been on their staff but Jerry is way to hands-on with the football operations, but they still should have managed more than 1 playoff win under Romo if he's that good. Peyton, Brady, and Brees do more with less yearly. They beat NY and we don't see them in that SB

Bill Parcells and Sean Payton last seasons in Dallas were 2006 and 2005 respectively. Tony Romo didn't become the teams full time starter until 2007 (played 10 games in 2006). He has had Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett as his head coaches. Neither of those guys will ever be confused with Sean Payton, Bill Belichick, Bill Walsh or Joe Gibbs.

Peyton, Brady and Brees are surrounded by talent at just about every position on the field, they all have had top offensive lines for most of their careers. Put Romo on any one of those teams and he has a couple rings by now. We have seen Drew Brees on mediocre teams in San Diego and the result was not pretty. Amazing what happened once he was surrounded with talent.

[bc21045]

Quote: Originally Posted by Haze88

Not really. Compare Seattle to the Baltimore and Tampa Bay teams and there are a lot of similarities. Dominant D, strong run game, no pressure on the QB to win games. The only difference is offense is encouraged though rules changes but the better defense still wins yearly Edit:Sorry for the double post, used the wrong quote features

5 out of the last 10 super bowl winners had defenses that ranked outside the top 10 in scoring: Bal (12), Giants (25), Saints (20), Giants (17), Colts (23)

[bc21045]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sheba2011

Bill Parcells and Sean Payton last seasons in Dallas were 2006 and 2005 respectively. Tony Romo didn't become the teams full time starter until 2007 (played 10 games in 2006). He has had Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett as his head coaches. Neither of those guys will ever be confused with Sean Payton, Bill Belichick, Bill Walsh or Joe Gibbs. Peyton, Brady and Brees are surrounded by talent at just about every position on the field, they all have had top offensive lines for most of their careers. Put Romo on any one of those teams and he has a couple rings by now. We have seen Drew Brees on mediocre teams in San Diego and the result was not pretty. Amazing what happened once he was surrounded with talent.

Chargers had the 11th ranked defense in 2004 and 13th in 2005 with a couple hall of famers in Tomlinson and Gates around Brees, maybe he just wasn't ready.

[Find_the_Door]

How is Romo overrated when his throw on the run is already criminally underrated at 82?

http://youtu.be/-NMI-iGlkW4


Should be at least a 90. How on Earth could you list Tony (who does way more for his team than most on this list) as most overrated instead of Wilson...... You must be kidding.

[Potatoes002]

While I agree Russell Wilson's OVR is too high, I still think his individual ratings are accurate. Wilson is easily one of the quickest, most elusive QB's in the league and has a great arm. Setting up the Play Action is also one major strength of Wilson's.

Same OVR as Tom Brady? I don't think he should be, Brady is the better quarterback. EA just sets up their rating scale in a weird way and it needs to be stretched out more.

[Haze88]

Quote: Originally Posted by bc21045

5 out of the last 10 super bowl winners had defenses that ranked outside the top 10 in scoring: Bal (12), Giants (25), Saints (20), Giants (17), Colts (23)

Aside from Baltimore and Indy, I'm pretty sure the better D won, Pats were last that year vs the Giants in 2011 and struggling down the stretch in 07, Colts D is usually poor vs Saints, look up the D for both squads and tell me whose was better?

Quote: Originally Posted by Sheba2011

Bill Parcells and Sean Payton last seasons in Dallas were 2006 and 2005 respectively. Tony Romo didn't become the teams full time starter until 2007 (played 10 games in 2006). He has had Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett as his head coaches. Neither of those guys will ever be confused with Sean Payton, Bill Belichick, Bill Walsh or Joe Gibbs. Peyton, Brady and Brees are surrounded by talent at just about every position on the field, they all have had top offensive lines for most of their careers. Put Romo on any one of those teams and he has a couple rings by now. We have seen Drew Brees on mediocre teams in San Diego and the result was not pretty. Amazing what happened once he was surrounded with talent.

Peyton I'll give you, Brady had one full year, no injuries, with a true number 1 guy in Randy Moss and we see how that went. I would say Troy Brown, David Patten, David Givens, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, pre Brady/Manning Welker, Julian Edelman, 3 rookies and mediocre run games aside from corey Dillon's last few seasons are exactly star talent. Brees' number one guy is a slow 7th round pick in Colston, Lance Moore and Pierre Thomas who both undrafted if I'm not mistaken, a basketball player and no real running back to speak of. I would say those San Diego teams had more pure talent with LT, Sproles and Turner and Antonio Gates and some killer defenses before he blew out his shoulder. Romo's teams tend to have more pure talent around them
then Brady and Brees but the later make their teams a lot better than Romo.