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Old 08-15-2014, 12:36 PM   #337
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Absolutely! And it ain't just YOU!! lol. Fifa 14 is pretty amazing and was solid as a first title for next gen. It's not perfect, of course, but the physics tied to the animations + locomotion, etc. are all on point. I think fifa 15 is going to be phenomenal. That being said, madden 13 really seemed to rely much more heavily on Ignite or Infinity (which I was totally happy with, while others didn't seem to like it so much, so to each his own). 25 added in a lot of "canned" animations and it felt like they're basically moving back towards what was wrong with Madden, imo. Instead of "advancing" their engine with Ignite, it feels like they're merging their bad code with Ignite reducing Ignite's impact. This is all speculation, btw, but it is what I "feel" when I play their game, especially after playing fifa 14 for a few games. That game legitimately has set up their "physics universe" and dropped players in it and gave the ball it's own set of physics to work with the players, and everything just plays out realistically. Madden doesn't quite seem to want to do this. I think they have made decisions based on thinking that a full physics engine won't do everything they want it to, and that they must add certain animations to work with a football game. Personally, I think they should try harder to make the fifa physics engine work FOR football. Overall, they're making improvements and I'm looking forward to madden 15, but I agree with you, man, I'm definitely seeing them moving AWAY from what Ignite should be giving them. And, if it was me programming Madden, I would absolutely steal everything I could from Fifa right now, and simply give it the correct Football AI and add the necessary "rules" of football to warp fifa into madden. As fifa is a constant motion game with all players in constant motion, that is actually MUCH harder to code for, i would believe, than for football. The only major difference would be the specific actions of line play and blocking as that is not really done in soccer. So, those interactions would be the major addition. But, whatever, I'm a Madden CFM guy and I'll slider the hell out of the game if i have to to get what I want out of it, and I'm a Fifa online guy, so I'll get what I need out of EA as a whole. lol
On this note, I'm liking what I'm hearing coming out of the NHL camp where there's full 12 player physics collisions (there's something Madden needs), puck independence (loose football independence for Madden), and other things that Madden can take from.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:39 PM   #338
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Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

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Absolutely! And it ain't just YOU!! lol. Fifa 14 is pretty amazing and was solid as a first title for next gen. It's not perfect, of course, but the physics tied to the animations + locomotion, etc. are all on point. I think fifa 15 is going to be phenomenal. That being said, madden 13 really seemed to rely much more heavily on Ignite or Infinity (which I was totally happy with, while others didn't seem to like it so much, so to each his own). 25 added in a lot of "canned" animations and it felt like they're basically moving back towards what was wrong with Madden, imo. Instead of "advancing" their engine with Ignite, it feels like they're merging their bad code with Ignite reducing Ignite's impact. This is all speculation, btw, but it is what I "feel" when I play their game, especially after playing fifa 14 for a few games. That game legitimately has set up their "physics universe" and dropped players in it and gave the ball it's own set of physics to work with the players, and everything just plays out realistically. Madden doesn't quite seem to want to do this. I think they have made decisions based on thinking that a full physics engine won't do everything they want it to, and that they must add certain animations to work with a football game. Personally, I think they should try harder to make the fifa physics engine work FOR football. Overall, they're making improvements and I'm looking forward to madden 15, but I agree with you, man, I'm definitely seeing them moving AWAY from what Ignite should be giving them. And, if it was me programming Madden, I would absolutely steal everything I could from Fifa right now, and simply give it the correct Football AI and add the necessary "rules" of football to warp fifa into madden. As fifa is a constant motion game with all players in constant motion, that is actually MUCH harder to code for, i would believe, than for football. The only major difference would be the specific actions of line play and blocking as that is not really done in soccer. So, those interactions would be the major addition. But, whatever, I'm a Madden CFM guy and I'll slider the hell out of the game if i have to to get what I want out of it, and I'm a Fifa online guy, so I'll get what I need out of EA as a whole. lol

Ignite and infinity are two different things.

Infinity is the physics engine

Ignite is the shared EA sports tec that is supposed to make sharing things between EA sports games easier.

I agree with you about the use of infinity in 13. They should have improved and built on that but, it seemed they just toned it down too much.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:40 PM   #339
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Hey sage if you watch the video of Landon bridge by QBJ on create a player you can see him cycle through all the player edit screens.

The 3rd one used to be sig animation and stance is now body proportion silder like ncaa used to be. Remember in the past even if you are not a QB it still shows up in the edit screen grayed out
So either Tiburon is lying, they restricted it to just QB's, or unaware someone removed QB sig styles.......
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They may have not been removed, but they ain't in the footage, lol. Maybe it's a glitch or a bug. Stances are throwing motions are gone. It's all those generic animations they added in 13.
What is this. Stop making excuses for the game because its football. It's not a bug and it's not a glitch. They are gone. This is EA and they earned the right to never get the benefit of the doubt.

Every time someone see's something Bad with Madden they say its a old build, its a bug, its a glitch.

How about the they have been removed and they won't tell you because they are sneaky.
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What is this. Stop making excuses for the game because its football. It's not a bug and it's not a glitch. They are gone. This is EA and they earned the right to never get the benefit of the doubt.

Every time someone see's something Bad with Madden they say its a old build, its a bug, its a glitch.

How about the they have been removed and they won't tell you because they are sneaky.
Sage making excuses for Madden ? you must be new, and your join date shows that.
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What is this. Stop making excuses for the game because its football. It's not a bug and it's not a glitch. They are gone. This is EA and they earned the right to never get the benefit of the doubt.

Every time someone see's something Bad with Madden they say its a old build, its a bug, its a glitch.

How about the they have been removed and they won't tell you because they are sneaky.
The one thing I will never do is make excuses for Madden or Tiburon, lol. Things happen in gaming though, and I'm not writing the code or programming, so anything is possible.
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Sage making excuses for Madden ? you must be new, and your join date shows that.
Thank you! Lol.
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Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

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What is this. Stop making excuses for the game because its football. It's not a bug and it's not a glitch. They are gone. This is EA and they earned the right to never get the benefit of the doubt.

Every time someone see's something Bad with Madden they say its a old build, its a bug, its a glitch.

How about the they have been removed and they won't tell you because they are sneaky.
No one is making excuses for anyone. We just don't have enough information at this point to make a concrete decision one way or the other based on one minute videos that have been heavily edited.
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