Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

[The JareBear]

Quote: Originally Posted by ThisIsReality

How late can one cancel a pre-order on Amazon, lol. I bit the bullet before the second stream and y'all are making me paranoid.

I don't think it is that drastic man. It was just one stream with some stale gameplay shown/lack of any real improvements shown. The first stream had some really nice moments and I don't think this stream is really a full representation of the final product.

Don't get me wrong, the stream was really bad from a gameplay perspective (in the second game, first game was fine, second game was really bad). I have no issue saying that, but that is just one game played by a dev who really seemed bored and uninterested in what he was doing. I would wait a little bit, at least until the demo.

[jaynral]

here is my theory.....This stream is a older build because they only wanted to show off the graphics and presentation and the newer build is still being worked on. It has to and better be the right theory!!!

[The_Balm]

Quote: Originally Posted by jaynral

here is my theory.....This stream is a older build because they only wanted to show off the graphics and presentation and the newer build is still being worked on. It has to and better be the right theory!!!

I don't want to be too easy on EA, but that does seem very plausible.

[Darth Aegis]

Quote: Originally Posted by jaynral

So I just watched both streams back to back.....man, They were 2 totally different games...Im no damn fool...In the video with rex, the tackling was great, so-so gang tackles with a guy(s) flying in after. The reach out tackle on the screen play, and the DEs were aggressive as hell and this stream, nothing...also, I thought on all pro, the tackling cone was up, I didnt see that in this stream...the DE's were weak, no really aggressive tackling...This had(need) to have been a earlier build.......No sign of Rex confirming or saying anything about this stream.. whatz going on?....also, the highlights were short and didnt show the whole and thats the one thing I HATED in the previous madden....It just shows a lack/laziness of detail...Damn

I'm starting to think the same thing, this has to be a earlier build of the game than the one we saw two weeks ago. All it looked like too me was Madden 25 with better body builds and graphics, game play seemed exactly the same as last years. If this is the case at least have a disclaimer saying that's the case. Like maybe the presentation and graphics were done already and the game play was still being worked on or tweaked. Just makes no sense still to me to showcase a old build. But I did remember them saying in the first stream that they couldn't show halftime, so it seemed to be in that build they were playing the first time.

[statum71]

Stat banners disappear entirely too fast!!

[The_Balm]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cutler23

I'm starting to think the same thing, this has to be a earlier build of the game than the one we saw two weeks ago. All it looked like too me was Madden 25 with better body builds and graphics, game play seemed exactly the same as last years. If this is the case at least have a disclaimer saying that's the case. Like maybe the presentation and graphics were done already and the game play was still being worked on or tweaked. Just makes no sense still to me to showcase a old build. But I did remember them saying in the first stream that they couldn't show halftime, so it seemed to be in that build they were playing the first time.

It doesn't have to be a overall old build, it could just have older gameplay. The teams can work in parallel.

I won't go too in-depth on version control systems (like Git), but there can be many branches of Madden being worked on in parallel, this is to keep the teams from getting in each others way. The gameplay team can have their own branch that only they change and the same for the presentation team, the MUT team etc.

They are then worked on in parallel and the teams changes are occasionally merged together so they get the updates from the other teams, but then they all continue working on their own branches.

For the last stream the gameplay team showed their latest fairly stable build. Then for this stream the presentation team showed their latest fairly stable build. Now in between the two streams the two teams may not have merged their changes (Or not all of the changes. The teams could have many, many branches just for themselves and not merge them all at once.) and the last time the presentation team was working with the newest gameplay changes could have been months ago.

Of course this is all speculative, but EA has to be using a version control system of some sort and they all generally let you do things like this.

[jaynral]

Quote: Originally Posted by The_Balm

It doesn't have to be a overall old build, it could just have older gameplay. The teams can work in parallel. I won't go too in-depth on version control systems (like Git), but there can be many branches of Madden being worked on in parallel, this is to keep the teams from getting in each others way. The gameplay team can have their own branch that only they change and the same for the presentation team, the MUT team etc. They are then worked on in parallel and the teams changes are occasionally merged together so they get the updates from the other teams, but then they all continue working on their own branches. For the last stream the gameplay team showed their latest fairly stable build. Then for this stream the presentation team showed their latest fairly stable build. Now in between the two streams the two teams may not have merged their changes (Or not all of the changes. The teams could have many, many branches just for themselves and not merge them all at once.) and the last time the presentation team was working with the newest gameplay changes could have been months ago. Of course this is all speculative, but EA has to be using a version control system of some sort and they all generally let you do things like this.

This makes alot of sense and can be very true

[Darth Aegis]

Quote: Originally Posted by The_Balm

It doesn't have to be a overall old build, it could just have older gameplay. The teams can work in parallel. I won't go too in-depth on version control systems (like Git), but there can be many branches of Madden being worked on in parallel, this is to keep the teams from getting in each others way. The gameplay team can have their own branch that only they change and the same for the presentation team, the MUT team etc. They are then worked on in parallel and the teams changes are occasionally merged together so they get the updates from the other teams, but then they all continue working on their own branches. For the last stream the gameplay team showed their latest fairly stable build. Then for this stream the presentation team showed their latest fairly stable build. Now in between the two streams the two teams may not have merged their changes (Or not all of the changes. The teams could have many, many branches just for themselves and not merge them all at once.) and the last time the presentation team was working with the newest gameplay changes could have been months ago. Of course this is all speculative, but EA has to be using a version control system of some sort and they all generally let you do things like this.

This has to be the case, otherwise I don't know what to think.