Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by strawberryshortcake

It's a double edge sword. The community wants fresh information, but if the presented doesn't meet expectations, torches and pitch forks are ready to come out. It just kind of hit me now ... ... Broken promises leaves a bad taste ... Team Madden should probably keep quiet on 3 year plans until they have actually completed year 3 of the feature, and are fully working at 100%. Don't mention anything about true step, living worlds, more catch animation, passing inaccuracies, halftime shows, better run blocking schemes, better coverage, better awareness, organic multiple meaningful consecutive hit tackles, working penalties, a working challenge system, variable dynamic presentation, proper replay angles, etc. etc. etc. Let the game speak for itself. If a product is great, it'll speak for itself. Don't need to hold the gamers' hand and tell him or her what's great about it. Let the game speak for itself. Pushing an idea still straddled in phase 1 or 2 will only stir up negative connotations. Telling us that X is in the game but is poorly implemented because it's still in infancy and "we're still working on it" leaves a very bad taste. Blow the gamer away when true step actually affects all 22 players. Blow the gamer away when a real legitimate immersive pre halftime and post game show is complete and follows a real broadcast. Blow us away when WR/DB interactions are golden. Blow us away when signature animation are captured properly. Blow us away when there are multiple styles at various positions. Blow us away when animations are fluid, organic and realistic. Let the game speak for itself. Let the game blow us away when everything represents football and represents everything we see on network TV, NOT EA Madden football, NOT EA Madden TV. Just football and all it's glory. The gamer shouldn't have to pick up a controller and "feel" the difference. It should be visually apparent immediately. Do we question if football is football when watching the NCAA and NFL football on our HDTV every week? Here's a short 30 second NFL football clip. Do we need to see the entire game to know that it's football? Entire game footage should not make a difference. Side note: That replay angle is terrible by the way.

The only problem with this theory is that no other football game can you watch 30 secs and get that football is football feel either. Every football game to date isn't even close to real football, lets call a spade a spade.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

The only problem with this theory is that no other football game can you watch 30 secs and get that football is football feel either. Every football game to date isn't even close to real football, lets call a spade a spade.

These look like football though. They resemble what I feel like football should look like on a console.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MIxS7O6Zgw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pqN7bvsOjA

This ain't there yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l45HImx7sLI

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

The only problem with this theory is that no other football game can you watch 30 secs and get that football is football feel either. Every football game to date isn't even close to real football, lets call a spade a spade.

I really, really want to get on your side, but you have to stop saying things like this.

You really need to understand the difference between optimism and blatant inaccuracies.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

These look like football though. They resemble what I feel like football should look like on a console. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MIxS7O6Zgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pqN7bvsOjA This ain't there yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l45HImx7sLI

We'll have to compare Madden 15 on BC cam when it releases, we already know presentation in M15 is much better.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

I really, really want to get on your side, but you have to stop saying things like this. You really need to understand the difference between optimism and blatant inaccuracies.

I have an opinion and you have yours, I've never liked the way players run in 2k football games. They run pretty much the same way in APF, I guess that's how most feel about Madden run animations. It's subjective, that's why I think this animations stuff is secondary, the O line/ D line play in Madden is as good as I've seen in a football game, they just have to work on the WR/ DB play and remove the other legacy issues to have an awesome game. They will add new animations every year and the game will keep improving IMO.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

We'll have to compare Madden 15 on BC cam when it releases, we already know presentation in M15 is much better.

The fact that this is even debatable is pathetic when this game is 7 years older and on older hardware only 2 years into its generation. Also we don't know because we haven't seen the final product. Still from what I've seen, it's debatable.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

We'll have to compare Madden 15 on BC cam when it releases, we already know presentation in M15 is much better.

Josh, did you watch those clips at all?

Presentation had nothing to do with his point.


It's great and all and it certainly looks much improved for 15 but that is the last thing that people want fixed. Just actually watch those clips without the EA colored glasses on, everything about them is fantastic and is how a football game should PLAY.

Notice I said play instead of LOOK.

[Kramer5150]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

I believe starting with Madden 15 people will stop feeling this way, that feeling is about to be a thing of the past, mark my words.

Oh really now...this is the exact same thing you said about...

1-Madden 13
2-Madden 25
3-Madden 25 on next gen...

NOW it's Madden 15? ...yea,ok.