How NHL 15 Will Capture the Look and Feel of Hockey with NBC Sports Broadcast Package

[SpectralThundr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Splitter77

if the player ratings ranged from 1-100 like the old genesis games intead of like 65-100 or whatever it is they have, the game would be so much better. i think players like shawn thornton are ranked like 70 in this game. thats nuts. Thornton should be ranked around the 10-20 range, just as an example. someone like john scott should be ranked in the 1-5 range.

Shawn Thorton is actually better than being a 4th liner would tell you. I get what you're saying but find a better example.

[Splitter77]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpectralThundr

Shawn Thorton is actually better than being a 4th liner would tell you. I get what you're saying but find a better example.

hes a fourth liner.
He's a bottom 20% player in the nhl.
ranking him as 20 would not be unheard of.

i should not be able to score more than 10 goals a season with thornton if i play all 82 games. As it stands right now, I could probably lead the league in scoring with him if i wanted to.

someone like paille or campbell play on his line.
I could see ranking paile at around 50 and campbell 40-45.

just gives better separation.

[SpectralThundr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Splitter77

hes a fourth liner. He's a bottom 20% player in the nhl. ranking him as 20 would not be unheard of. i should not be able to score more than 10 goals a season with thornton if i play all 82 games. As it stands right now, I could probably lead the league in scoring with him if i wanted to. someone like paille or campbell play on his line. I could see ranking paile at around 50 and campbell 40-45. just gives better separation.

So do you want players authentically attributed, or do you want a narrow wall limit based on what line they play on? Because it seems like you're looking for the latter. X player can't be higher than a 30 because he's a 4th liner. Arguably the Bruins have the best 4th line in hockey. But because they're 4th liners you're saying they should be ranked the same as any other 4th liner or non skilled player like a John Scott for example.

[Splitter77]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpectralThundr

So do you want players authentically attributed, or do you want a narrow wall limit based on what line they play on? Because it seems like you're looking for the latter. X player can't be higher than a 30 because he's a 4th liner. Arguably the Bruins have the best 4th line in hockey. But because they're 4th liners you're saying they should be ranked the same as any other 4th liner or non skilled player like a John Scott for example.

i just want authentic attributes rated 1-100 like it was back in the nhl series on sega genesis.
best player in the nhl should be 100, the worst should be 1. Then you figure out where everyone fits in from there.

[Comp]

The bits of commentary in the trailer were actually good. A lot better than the current commentary for sure.

[Money99]

Quote: Originally Posted by Splitter77

if the player ratings ranged from 1-100 like the old genesis games intead of like 65-100 or whatever it is they have, the game would be so much better. i think players like shawn thornton are ranked like 70 in this game. thats nuts. Thornton should be ranked around the 10-20 range, just as an example. someone like john scott should be ranked in the 1-5 range.

I'd love it if they did this too. Wasn't it Baumgarnter who was ranked a 1 or 2? He was horrific.

I can't recall where I read this, but I believe it was the NHLPA that prevented any of their players from being rated that low.
That's fine. But make a person with 55 hands, feel like they have cement in their gloves.

But this is a topic I've wasted so much breath on I don't want to do it again.

EA may have been forced to give the CPU boosts in prowess to bandage the poor AI.
With this new hardware, there's no excuse. The CPU should never, EVER, get a boost for anything.
We should finally see true intelligence which would finally make the attributes valid.
No more need to give goons the vision of Gretzky.

If they still can't provide that, then all these fancy graphics and arena's won't make a lick of difference.

[SpectralThundr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Money99

I'd love it if they did this too. Wasn't it Baumgarnter who was ranked a 1 or 2? He was horrific. I can't recall where I read this, but I believe it was the NHLPA that prevented any of their players from being rated that low. That's fine. But make a person with 55 hands, feel like they have cement in their gloves. But this is a topic I've wasted so much breath on I don't want to do it again. EA may have been forced to give the CPU boosts in prowess to bandage the poor AI. With this new hardware, there's no excuse. The CPU should never, EVER, get a boost for anything. We should finally see true intelligence which would finally make the attributes valid. No more need to give goons the vision of Gretzky. If they still can't provide that, then all these fancy graphics and arena's won't make a lick of difference.

I can't find the link now, but it was indeed the NHLPA stepping in some years ago about attributes being too low. EA would never come out and say they were contractually obligated to skew the ratings scale but it wouldn't shock me if in order to carry the NHLPA seal and thus the actual players that they be ranked on a scale of say 50-100 rather than 1-100. Much like in Madden now in order to have a players actual tats they need waivers signed by the players themselves due to past lawsuits. Again people often just don't realize the legal mumbo jumbo involved with having rights to certain leagues or player unions represented in game.

[Splitter77]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpectralThundr

I can't find the link now, but it was indeed the NHLPA stepping in some years ago about attributes being too low. EA would never come out and say they were contractually obligated to skew the ratings scale but it wouldn't shock me if in order to carry the NHLPA seal and thus the actual players that they be ranked on a scale of say 50-100 rather than 1-100. Much like in Madden now in order to have a players actual tats they need waivers signed by the players themselves due to past lawsuits. Again people often just don't realize the legal mumbo jumbo involved with having rights to certain leagues or player unions represented in game.

are you serious??
did they really make a complaint about attributes being too low??