Sound Off: Why Does America Hate the Heat?

[BringTheHeat]

I just don't get the hate for them teaming up. People were on him for not recruiting people to come to Cleveland, but when he does join a loaded team people get mad. I believe people were on Rose about that too a few years back, as well as Dirk.

[ex carrabba fan]

Quote: Originally Posted by vtcha

Adding to this, the Cavs over-achieved too early, mainly because of LeBron- not his fault. They only had 1 lottery pick throughout the 7 years, which turned out to be a bust (#10 pick in 2004 - Luke Jackson). Had the Cavs sucked for a few more years they could have went through the OKC route and built the franchise from the ground up. On a side note, I'm looking through OKC's draft history and wow, didn't realize they drafted Eric Bledsoe.

Absolutely correct. LeBron's sheer talent actually stunted their growth. Instead of racking up a few more lottery picks they found themselves in the playoffs purely because LeBron was already an All-Star and top player from day 1.

I have no idea as to who was truly available, but all I can do is judge the talent that Gilbert and company put around LeBron. It wasn't pretty, and that's putting it nicely. Trading for a washed up Jamison, a washed up Shaq. Those were pretty much the best moves they could come up with...

[ex carrabba fan]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

KG said all the right things publicly, and gave us some heartfelt interviews and all, but he wanted our of Minny....it's evident by the attitude he's shown toward them since he left...

Even if this were true, which is debatable, KG stuck with that team way longer than anyone could ask for. All respect to him.

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by ex carrabba fan

Absolutely correct. LeBron's sheer talent actually stunted their growth. Instead of racking up a few more lottery picks they found themselves in the playoffs purely because LeBron was already an All-Star and top player from day 1. I have no idea as to who was truly available, but all I can do is judge the talent that Gilbert and company put around LeBron. It wasn't pretty, and that's putting it nicely. Trading for a washed up Jamison, a washed up Shaq. Those were pretty much the best moves they could come up with...

Honestly it sounds like the Bulls to me. People like to sit and bag on the talent that LeBron had around him in Cleveland but then get mad at management for not turning that "trash" into all-stars/superstars. If the talent is as bad as everybody likes to say, how the hell were they supposed to flip them into Dwyane Wade/Derrick Rose/Chris Bosh type talent? Free agents won't sign there and you have trash on your roster with no lottery or mid teen draft picks, but go get LeBron some help. Thanks for the answers there esteemed basketball gurus.

[ex carrabba fan]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_B_Mack

Honestly it sounds like the Bulls to me. People like to sit and bag on the talent that LeBron had around him in Cleveland but then get mad at management for not turning that "trash" into all-stars/superstars. If the talent is as bad as everybody likes to say, how the hell were they supposed to flip them into Dwyane Wade/Derrick Rose/Chris Bosh type talent? Free agents won't sign there and you have trash on your roster with no lottery or mid teen draft picks, but go get LeBron some help. Thanks for the answers there esteemed basketball gurus.

Right, this is what I addressed in my initial post. I think it was definitely a combo of mismanagement and Cleveland simply not having any luck with the draft/luck with getting any big splashes in trades.

Not sure what the last line about esteemed basketball gurus was about?

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by ex carrabba fan

Right, this is what I addressed in my initial post. I think it was definitely a combo of mismanagement and Cleveland simply not having any luck with the draft/luck with getting any big splashes in trades. Not sure what the last line about esteemed basketball gurus was about?

Wasn't directed at you. Just meant at the typical 'hahaha Cleveland sucks! LeBron played with trash, get better help for him' crowd that never likes to put any context to the situation and act like Cleveland literally just sat around on their asses not trying to do anything to help LeBron.

[ex carrabba fan]

I hear you, I don't think Cleveland sat on their hands I just think they didn't get the job done plain and simple. As hard as a task as it might have been with what they had to work with, they did not surround James with adequate support. Which is the reason why, in the end, I do not blame James for wanting to go to a situation where he could guarantee playing with two other All-Stars. You can't compete if you don't have at least two other exceptional support teammates.

[The 24th Letter]

Quote: Originally Posted by ex carrabba fan

Even if this were true, which is debatable, KG stuck with that team way longer than anyone could ask for. All respect to him.

What's not debatable are the direct quotes from Garnett though....hard to believe the relationship soured AFTER he left.

I agree though, he did stick around for a while...,didn't even know that was up for debate..