Sound Off: Why Does America Hate the Heat?

[cam21224]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

I don't necessarily have a problem with them "joining forces" either. Boston had a big 3, LA had a big 3, San Antonio had a big 3, and now pretty much any team that makes the playoffs (especially the West) have 3 All-Star caliber guys.. They needed all 3 to currently compete and as we've saw over the years it has been far from a cake walk for them, even with all 3. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I agree, initially I was pissed but as time went on it just became oh well, who cares type of situation. I just felt all the other teams in the hunt for them never had a fair chance, and it was different seeing players working behind the scene to come together rather than the front office doing such. I also wasn't a fan of LeBron antics in Cleveland either, but I've grown to see he's just a guy who enjoys having fun with his teammates.

Most of the people who strongly hate them either fall into two categories, fans of teams spurned by them or hypocrites, because if they joined together on their favorite team, they wouldn't give two ****s how it was done.

Do I enjoy seeing the Heat lose yes, do I hate them no. It's more so the issues I have with the blatant bandwagon fans on my time line. You know the diehard one who was just cheering for the Celtics for years eliminating the same guy's he's riding now, and rooting on to destroy former Celtic players, like really.

Before the Heat, it was the Celtics and in a few years it'll be a new group of bandwagons for whichever team is the most popular (it) team at the time. Even the ones for the team I root for were driving me crazy, like **** u wasn't with us when Smush was shooting in the gym.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by DIESEL

You are pretty much confirming what I said here. I never lumped any team's entire fan base into this but I will stand by what I said. During the recruitment of Lebron James in the summer of 2010 the ***majority*** of Bulls, Knicks, and Nets fans: a. Hoped their team could convince Lebron to leave Cleveland by offering him the opportunity to play with a better supporting cast or b. Figured he would stay in Cleveland and be able to lure a decent 2nd option When Lebron chose: c. Go to a team nobody even considered and play with better players than anyone else could possibly offer...... many fans from the 3 teams I mentioned earlier, instantly found a laundry list of reasons to despise the player they were salivating over just days before. I have no problem with people feeling this way, but it's disingenuous to pretend they wouldn't have welcomed Lebron and his friends to their team if given the opportunity.

Speaking for Nets fans here(because there were only like 3 of us here during that time)I can tell you right now that Option A is simply not true because we all knew at the time that he wasn't coming to New Jersey mainly because...it was still New Jersey.

Sure he was "tight" with Jay-Z at the time because nobody including Nets fans ever thought that it was strong enough to convince him to join the Nets. Hell, we all seen what that highly glorified "cap space" got us that Summer.

Would I loved to have him come here? Of course, what team wouldn't? I don't blame any team for trying to clear out space to make a run at him, even though he, Bosh and Wade had pretty much known where they were going to go before that summer anyway.

So yeah, the things you mentioned may have been true for Bulls and Knicks Fans, but as far as Nets fans go, that's not true or accurate at all.

[Matty Aqua]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_B_Mack

You sure about that?

No im not 100% sure, but you get the point i was trying too make

[ThreeKing]

I really wish people would stop bringing up the Celtics of '08. KG and Ray were trades, plus those guys were clearly on the 'back 9' of their careers. LeBron and Bosh were right in the beginning of their prime and they were free agents. Not a legit comparison.

It is what it is.

I can get over the fact they teamed-up. I can get over the fact they have ring-chasers. I also can just sit back and laugh at their fanbase.

What I DO have a problem with, is the type of officiating they receive during the playoffs versus what happens in the regular season.

Do I still have 'beef' with them? Sure. But I guess a lot of my focus or hate should be directed towards the league itself. It's just crappy all the way around in my opinion.

[cam21224]

Quote: Originally Posted by ThreeKing

I really wish people would stop bringing up the Celtics of '08. KG and Ray were trades, plus those guys were clearly on the 'back 9' of their careers. LeBron and Bosh were right in the beginning of their prime and they were free agents. Not a legit comparison.

If directed at me, I never said that as its noted in my post.

If not sorry for the confusion.

[ojandpizza]

KG and Ray were trades because they wanted out. So technically while it was different it was the same in principal.

As far as playoff officiating goes, we can have the argument over and over again a thousand times. You seem to be one of the only ones here who believe they have been getting superior calls night in and night out, so I'll just say we disagree.


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[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

KG and Ray were trades because they wanted out. So technically while it was different it was the same in principal. As far as playoff officiating goes, we can have the argument over and over again a thousand times. You seem to be one of the only ones here who believe they have been getting superior calls night in and night out, so I'll just say we disagree. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

KG didn't "want out." They had to convince that dude to leave that mess in Minnesota. I don't even know if Ray "wanted out" of Seattle at the time. I don't recall hearing that at the time, but it was a long time ago.


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[ex carrabba fan]

Neither KG nor Ray Allen asked for a trade. Ray Allen actually just signed an extension before getting traded.

Overall, I don't hold anything against the Heat for the way they all came together. It wasn't James' fault that the Cavs' organization was incompetent in getting him even decent help. 7 years. 7 years and you couldn't do better than that ****? I don't blame James for leaving to a better situation and it's not like the Heat have had really that deep of teams outside of the Big 3. Bosh and Wade themselves... great players still, just not what we all built them up to be when they first came together.

To defend the Cavs to an extent, It's not James' fault his team wasn't blessed with a game-changing trade or All-Star draft prospect. Most title teams have been fortunate enough to have things fall into place. The Cavs never did, a lot had to do with their incompetence but they really didn't get any luck at all.

As far as the other teams like New York, Chicago etc. all trying to shuffle their rosters to sign Wade/LeBron/Bosh/Amare.. well tough. Nobody asked them to do any of that. They took a risk, a measured risk. In sports you have to do that sometimes.